Q & A ARCHIVES:

Q: from Susan Pitcher
Date: 4 October 2006
Time: 11:30 AM

Comments: Height and Weight

Hi. We adopted a male Doberman from a rescue organization a couple of weeks ago. He's 6 months old and has rather large paws (as expected) but he only weighs 33 lbs and is 22" in height. Is this 'normal'? I read earlier posts that dobies can grow up to 18 months so I'm hopeful that his growth isn't stunted for some reason or another (we are seeing a vet - waiting on blood work - because he's very skinny). His personality is wonderful...He could not be a happier puppy! I just wonder if we will have an adult dog with huge paws that he never grew into. Thanks!!

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Susan,

Most likely he is somewhat stunted because of not being in good weight and most likely that was from weaning. I say this because you say he's 6 mo.
If he was fed a nutritionally balanced diet from early on and he was a good eater, he would have bigger I'm sure.

Yes, they do grow until 18 mo. or even 2 yrs. but that is usually only a small amount and it's mostly filling out. You didn't say if he is a good eater or not. If he's skinny, either he's not eating or has a problem causing him not to eat. You must take him to the Vet to see what is going on.

We do not give medical advice on this list so please make sure you get him to a Vet right away and have him tested for Worms, Giardia, Coccidia, Heart worm and kidney & liver functions as well. Something must be causing him to not gain weight. I'm assuming you're giving him a good quality dog food and enough of it.

 A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Susan:

Puppies all grow at different rates. Most of the time they grow into their foot size so I'm not sure there is anything to worry about. Your veterinarian would be your best resource as he's seeing the puppy in person. He does seem thin as you already are aware of needing to change. He could be thin from lack of proper feeding, or parasites or some other reason. Having the veterinarian do blood work, etc., is a good idea.

Good luck with your new puppy.

Q: from Ryan Leasure
Date: 2 October 2006
Time: 10:07 PM

Comments: Choosing A Breeder

Just wondering if maybe you could link me to a good sample puppy contract. Looking to see how others write them. Thank you in advance.



A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Ryan:

Please check my personal website for an example www.darwindobes.com.

Comments: breeding

Ok, my bitch and dog have grown up together. I have never bred her but my stud has bred before. Now, my bitch is in her 8th day of her cycle and the stud was trying to breed her a couple of days ago but she got pissy with him so I knew it wasn't time. I figured between 9 and 12 days. But today my bitch started humping the stud and he let her do that but he never tried to mount her. Is this a normal thing. could this be a dominance thing since they have grown up together. Should I keep him away for a few days and then reintroduce or what. Her vagina has gone down in swelling and doesn't seem to be discharging as heavily. Could we have missed it?. She bleed heavy for 22 days last time. what do you think? Thanks.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Comments:

Thank you for all of your recent answers to my queries regarding my Doberman. And YES I do consult with my vet and his team regarding all of my concerns. I simply used this site as an outlet for my Dobe issues as I value and respect all of your knowledge. I never intended for your site to be my pure source of medical advice and it appears that is the impression. Thank you for all of your advice in the past.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Q: from Sam

Date: 24 August 2006

Time: 9:30 AM

Comments: Feeding

What is your advice on feeing chicken to my Dobe? I will usually buy one whole rotisserie chicken from the local grocery store and give that to him a week. Do you think it is too rich for a dog to digest especially for his pancreas? Other suggestions on adding meat to his kibble diet?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

This is another question for your veterinarian since you say that you are worried about his pancreas. We may be spoiling you by answering all of your
veterinarian related questions. We are happy to help but we do state in our rules that we cannot give veterinary advice or advise on food to feed. I feed raw chicken necks to my Dobermans, but I cannot recommend that you do this. I also feed raw hamburger. There are books on the market about feeding
your dog too.

Please ask your veterinarian about feeding this cooked chicken to your Doberman.

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

While we don't give medical advice, I can say I do feed my dogs a good brand of canned meat.  I just add a couple tablespoons to their kibble at each meal and add some warm water to mix.  I'm not into raw feeding nor would I feed a chicken to one of my dogs.  Everyone has their own idea of the proper diet.  I've had luck with my feeding program from over 50 years and not had a problem.  Some fads can get you into trouble.  Just use common sense with feeding your dog.  A whole chicken?  No.

Q: from Sam

Date: 23 August 2006

Time: 4:00 PM

Comments: E Collars

My Dobe just underwent ear surgery for his hematoma. But of course he shakes and tries to scratch at the site. Do you have any suggestions to prevent this? I have an E collar but that isn't doing the trick since his legs are so long they can reach ? Any other methods that you could recommend to keep his ear protected would be great.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

Is the e-collar that you are using large enough. I have one here that is around 18 to 20 inches in diameter and it covers the whole head. They do
come in even bigger sizes I believe. Check with your veterinarian about this and possibly for some more suggestions.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Q: from Paula Tyler
Date: 22 August 2006
Time: 7:59 PM

Comments: Dobes and Cats

Thank you so much for giving me further advice. I feel encouraged to go ahead and try out this beautiful bitch. She is the ideal juniors dog for me as far as age, training, and temperament, (and she's got the conformation too) but I did have some doubts about the cats. I am glad that you, someone experienced with Doberman and cat interaction, are optimistic about me trying this.

Also, I was aware that you have Dachshunds from your postings here, and this Dobe breeder mentioned that your Dachshunds were legendary. I did not realize that you had Standard Wires though. We got our one and only Standard, a Longhair, from California in 2004 (Joy is a Caution to the Wind daughter). We got Joy when she was 15 months old, so we did not know her early history about her exposure or introduction to cats. Joy's prey drive is much stronger than our mini Dachshunds, and it appears much stronger than what I saw in this Dober-girl, but even now after a bit of training Joy is much better. Joy does her best to ignore the cats and focus on me while they rub on her, at least when I'm near her. Anyways, Dachshunds are a special breed, as are Dobermans and I'm sure I will always have one or the other throughout my lifetime.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paula,

Thank you for the up-date and I am happy that you are going to give this girl a try. I am betting that she will work out. Good luck in juniors with her. I was a junior in my beginning too. You will learn a lot.

Q: from Ryan Leasure
Date: 22 August 2006
Time: 7:31 PM

Comments: Season

I was wondering (or more like don't understand) what marks the first day of pro-estrus. I read the article "Events in the estrus cycle" and what I understood is the first day is when you see definite signs of the bitch's vagina being greatly swollen. Now, her last season she was an extremely heavy bleeder for 21 days. But two days ago she started to swell and I have seen no signs of vaginal discharge. so do I mark her swelling as the fist day of pro-estrus or is it when I see vaginal discharge?

Thank you, Ryan

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Ryan:

The way I read the article, there is a sentence as follows: "Uterine hemorrhage is seen outwardly as vaginal discharge and its onset marks the first day of proestrus". This says that the first day of pro-estrus is actual bleeding. So that would be day one of the pro-estrus portion of the season.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Ryan,

I usually note on the calendar the first day of discharge. I start watching for the first discharge when I see the swelling. From what I get from that article, Events In The Estrus Cycle, that you are referring to is that the first day marking the heat period is the first day of vaginal discharge. They are all different and they can start this swelling many days in advance or just a few. From what I have observed over the years is that most of them do bleed for approximately 21 days.

I hope that this help to clarify things for you.

Q: from Paula Tyler
Date: 21 August 2006
Time: 8:39 PM

Comments: Dobes and Cats

Thank you for your responses. It gives me a lot to consider. I did spend quite a bit of time with this Doberman. I was able to see her bark at another dog through the window and how quickly she snapped out of it by her owners only having to calmly say her name a couple of times. I agree that Cesar Milan might be interested in answering this question as well - we like his methods and have met him in person.

As far as our environment here, these are rescued barn cats that have seen it all. They choose to be outside but close to the house. They are not skittish, very laid back and loving, sometimes a little too affectionate with our dachshunds - lots of rubbing. Rarely one of the Dachs will playfully try to chase them, but the cats just aren't interested in running for the most part - they trot off and hide or just won't give chase.

As far as loose or unattended on the property, we are always outside with our dogs for safety and we don't have doggie doors.

I also like your idea about a trial, and the breeder has offered to help us.

The other good thing is that this dog definitely has not gotten away with chasing small furry things as she has never been around cats yet.

Ironically, the Dobe's name is Copy Cat!

Thanks again.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paula,

From what you say in this letter, I would try this girl. I have Dachshunds and if your Dachshund doesn't chase these cats, I would bet that the Doberman girl won't either. I'd say try her out. I am confident that she will work out given the information you offered in this note. By the way I am a breeder of wirehaired standard Dachshunds too.

Q: from John Delaney
Date: 21 August 2006
Time: 8:25 PM

Comments:

I'm thinking about adopting a 5 month old blue Doberman from a local shelter. He seems to be good, all except for eating everything and anything he sees. Is this common for the age and how should I discipline him to stop eating them? Also should I look for anything health wise being that he is a blue.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

John,

This is typical for any puppy.  Just like a human baby, everything goes in their mouth.  Your objective.....puppy proof your home.  Anything that is
likely to be laying around , clothes, shoes, towels, ANYTHING should be put away.  Many puppies & grown dogs die constantly form ingesting things and
having intestinal blockage.  If you are planning on getting this or any puppy, or even having a child, this is a must.

Provide plenty of safe dog toys so he has things to keep his interest.

Another thing.  Never ever leave a puppy loose without supervision.  If you go away, use a dog pen or crate as long as you don't leave for hours at a time.  Confining the pup to one area that is perfectly safe is the way to raise them until they are older and know the rules.  Puppies this age are teething so they need chew TOYS.

Blues usually end up with some coat problems but nothing that is a determent to it's health.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Blues can have some coat problems but other than that I am not aware of any health issues associated with them. As far as the eating everything, this can be an issue with some puppies. You need to be sure there aren't things laying around that he can help himself to and you should never leave him totally unattended where he can get into trouble. If he eats his toys, you take them away, if he eats his blankets, you take them away or you can end up with an intestinal blockage which is very expensive to have removed surgically and life threatening if not treated in time.

Q: from Sam
Date: 21 August 2006
Time: 3:51 PM

Comments: Skin help

Any suggestions for getting rid of unsightly calluses or bumps on a Dobe's elbows ? I know they are protruding joints and I give my Dobe plenty of soft surfaces to lie on , especially the couch:) But am wondering if any softening agents are useful for example creams, lotions, or oils?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

You can put Bag Balm or Vaseline on them to soften them up so the hair can grow back in. If they are puffy looking, they may have dead ingrown like hairs in them and if that is the case, you can wash them and squeeze that debris out and medicate and do that daily until they look clean and then you can put a medicated salve on them and wait for the hair to grow in. It will take several weeks. I see from what you write that he is offered lots of
soft things to lie on and that is good. Discourage him to lie on hard surfaces which they all do when they are outside. I have beds for them outside and they use them.

Q: from Sam
Date: 21 August 2006
Time: 9:28 AM

Comments: Hypothyroid

I recently had my Dobe tested for hypothyroidism. The vet states he is on the low end but no below. The low end should read .8 or below and mine is at .8. I know Thyroid testing can be unreliable and as he is asymptomatic, do you suggest I not do anything at this point as the vet suggested? I know that thyroid problems are prevalent in our breed.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Sam,

While we do not offer any Veterinary advice, I would however suggest to your Vet to send him blood panel to Michigan State University as they do a certain test that does pertain to Dobermans. Dobes it seems have a different reading than most Labs take into consideration. MSU is very reliable and most Dobe owners have their Thyroid panel sent there.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

I would just follow your veterinarians advice on what to do based on the results of the thyroid panel. Ask him if he had a whole thyroid panel done. I like to have mine sent to the Michigan State lab for the reading. I find that sometimes, even though they test within the normal range that they can have symptoms of hypothyroidism. Your vet can and should guide on whether you should medicate or not.

You said asymptomatic, did you mean symptomatic? I take it that you read the thyroid articles on our pages. I suggest that you follow what your vet says and if he doesn't lose his weight and he continues to show symptoms then your vet may want to put him on thyroid medication.

Q: from Sam
Date: 21 August 2006
Time: 9:26 AM

Comments: Hematoma, post surgery

This question is mainly directed to Marj Brooks that answered by previous post about having my Dobe's Hematoma surgical repaired. I had the surgery done a few days ago. I am wondering about the recovery period. It will take 3 weeks total to have the stiches removed. Do you anticipate the fur to regrow and the ear will stand erect and cropped as before? The bandage and pressure dressing on the ear now causes the ear to droop. I am worried about lasting cosmetic damage.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

I really don't know what to tell you. It sounds as though your vet treated this okay and we will just have to hope for the best. I have had great luck with my experiences. They have to stitch the ear all over so that it doesn't fill up with fluid again and it takes a while for the "leak" to heal. I have a dog where they stitched the ear like you describe and I also had one where the vet stapled the ear which was really scary, but they both healed up nicely, the hair grew back in on the ear and the ear stood up like it had stood prior to the injury and surgery.

What does the vet say about your concerns? Have you asked the vet?

Maybe when the stitches do come out and the ear doesn't stand straight up like it did before you can tape it again. Let's just hope that this surgery was a success and everything will come out fine. I hope so for you. Let's see what happens and feel free to report back to us
the results Sam.

Q: from Paula Tyler
Date: 19 August 2006
Time: 5:37 PM

Comments: Dobes and Cats

Hi,

My family has some OUTDOOR barn cats. I am considering getting 1yr old bitch for Juniors. She would live with us, but she has never been around cats. Is she too old to start being socialized with cats, and if not, how would I go about training her to the point that I would be able to trust her with them?

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

It may not be easy. If she is one that doesn't seem to mind them, I'm sure they'll keep away from her. If she tries to chase them, keep her on a leash or in a fenced in area where she can't get to them. If they can come in the house and you can hold them easily and they are not afraid of a dog, have someone else hold her on a lead and just let her sniff them until she relaxes. After she doesn't seem to pay any attention (and this may be hours or days or more) then let the cat on the floor and keep her on a lead so that she may WALK towards them but not try running. If they run, she'll chase them for sure. It may take a long time or maybe not. Depends on both of them. Don't take a chance or it may wind up in a disaster. If you're sure she can't be trusted with them, never let them have access to each other.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Paula,

I am afraid that this is a dilemma that will be very hard to deal with and I am almost thinking that you may be better off starting with a puppy. If this one year old Doberman has the normal canine temperament and it is it's instinct to want to chase small furry moving animals, it would be very hard to curb this natural behavior, especially if she has gotten away with chasing cats during her short lifetime. I am getting it from you question that she hasn't been around cats at all. You need to ask the person who you are getting her from this.

I think that it could take some very hard and forceful training. Also it all depends on the cats behaviors, the Doberman' behaviors and especially you and your experience and knowledge of animal behavior. You need to access the situation.

You may want to contact a quality trainer, such as the behavioral/trainer that is on TV's National Geographic channel whose name escapes me at the moment, and ask this question to someone like this person.

If these barn cats are "cool" and just sit around and not scurry about at the drop of a drop of a hat and scoot around, this could be easier, but that is a cat's natural behavior. That is to run for cover, which could excite the dog beyond comprehension. The Doberman is supposed to be trainable and obedient enough to respond to any command and clear-headed enough to disengage from an activity when commanded to do so, but.......

Another thing that you can try after you have found out more about how to deal with this is to get the new girl on a trial bases and see if this can be worked out.

Are these cats mature and calm and pets or are they feral? Do they come to you to get affection and petting and for food or do they run off?

If they are just regular pets and friendly cats, you can take your new Doberman to the barn on lead and introduce them calmly and let the Dog sniff them all over and the cat do the same and allow the cat to do it's thing and rub on the dog (the cat leave it's scent this way) praising the good dog all the time and correct and say "no" when the dog gets out of control. Even with doing all of this, it could be that it doesn't work. Plan on spending some time out there and if things are calm, go about doing duties out there with dog on lead. You can do this for several days and when you feel comfortable that the dog (and cats) will behave and be calm off lead then try that and be ready to leash her up again when and if she chases with a strong "NO!", No Chase (or whatever) command.

I think that this is a question for a type of person that I talk about above.

I have cats and dogs and have strange dogs in and out all of the time but I do have house cats that I demand to have the cats and the dogs get along or the dog is out. I am the boss of the household and that is important.

What I worry about is when your dog is "off lead" and loose and unattended on the property and it gets into the fun and games of chasing the cats, it would be harder to train her. Will she have yard of her own where she will not be able to get to the barn unless you take her? I think it all depends on the behavior of the barn cats and also the behavior of the dog and her drives. If the situation is that the cats run and hide and the dog forgets them it could work too. If the dog is persistent and chases and keeps going after the cat tenaciously, it may not work. It also depends on you and all of your family to be on the same page and sensible and to be aware of natural animal behavior to work with this. I am probably making this sound harder then it actually is.

I am having a hard time explaining this any further.

I hope that we have given you something to go on. I do know that ranch/farm dogs and cats work well all over the country, so it could be doable.

Q: from Richard Parker
Date: 19 August 2006
Time: 9:41 AM

Comments: Sleep habits

Our 2 year old female has one major problem. If you touch her while she is fast a sleep she wakes and snaps at either my wife or me. No other bad habits sleeps with us and has the run of the house. Listens to commands 95% of the time 100% healthy, this one area of concern. What do you suggest we started to crate her again during the night. I would prefer that didn't have to be the case.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Richard,

Some dogs sleep very soundly and dream of who knows what. Some other dog attacking them??? Anyway, what I would do to try and wake her is to stand a little distance and call her name. Sometimes you have to shout a little if they're in a deep sleep. This will wake her so as not to startle her. Then call her to you. If she sleeps in bed and it's just a nudge with your arm or leg and this happens, forget it, stick her in a crate or on a cushion along side the bed. If she is otherwise a very good dog, and this is the ONLY time she snaps,
then try as I suggest.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Richard,

You don't have to crate her a night, but you do need to stop this behavior. She must be in deep sleep if she does not sense your approach. Try this, try talking to her and getting her awake before touching her. If she does bite and even if it is out of a sound sleep, you need to tell her "NO". Stroke her as if to use the Tellington Touch until you feel her relax. The Tellington Touch is basically using your hand and applying circular motions as if to massage her body all over. You can do this many times during the day and while she is awake and /or playing. The idea is to get her used to your touch at all times. This method is a relaxer or relaxing and it should work.

You can also wake her and give her another command such as "come" or "let's go" or something to get her mind to something else and then praise her and pet her a lot. In other words, work towards a positive.

Also, before she goes to sleep in her bed, you can pet and stroke her and do this Tellington Touch with her before that she goes to sleep and then do it again before that she falls off into the deep sleep. Talk to her while you are doing this. If she is in the deep sleep do this and maybe hold her head in place so that she cannot snap at you and stroke her and talk to her until she awakens and even after. The idea is to have her awaken calmly and think about your touch and not whatever she may be dreaming about and to stop this "startling" reaction waking up and also to always trust in your touch. Have all of the members in your family do this too.

I think that you can do this.

You can google Tellington Touch and probably get some information about this. There is a video and a book about this method.

Q: from Lori Weeks

Date: 18 August 2006

Time: 5:41 PM

Comments: Conformation

I have trouble keeping my Doberman's ears up when in the ring. They are up all the time, until I go to stack or move in the ring. He responds really well to his squeeker toy, do I use this in the ring?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lori,

It is okay to use the squeaker toy in the ring but it presents a problem for the other exhibitors in your class. You could squeak it in the wrong moment
for another dog and that is not fair.

I would suggest that you continue to work with bait and hopefully I can refer you to an article to help you train your Doberman to bait more enthusiastically.

Does he/she like to bait? Eat? If so I have a method to use that works. I call it the 1-2-3 game. You get his attention with the bait and say "one" and keep him interested and say "two" and if he is still interested say "three" and give him the food at the same moment. If he takes his attention off of the bait. start the game over at "one". Only give the food on "three". As you progress with his attention make the numbers further apart.

There are all kinds of methods to use for having him get his ears up while gaiting. While this is nice and sometimes it can be the winning edge, his gaiting itself is the important thing here and also the natural positioning of his neck which should be carried at about 10 o'clock rather than straight up. Too far up is wrong and too low is wrong.

The articles are as follows:

Conformation Key Lesson 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 by Michelle Santana  as well as Teaching Tail Up, Training Tips, her Q&A article and Avoiding Heavy Head. There are other valuable training tips on our Article Menu under the Conformation heading.

I hope that this all helps you.

Q: from Sammy
Date 18 August 2006
Time: 10:08 AM

Comments: Temperament (Bath Time)

My 4 1/2 yr old Dobe has always been gracious about bath time. He knows the commands and what is expected of him. Recently, he has been behaving badly. When it is bath time, he will run out the dog door and try to evade my commands. Then once I managed to give him the bath, he immediately runs around like crazy and hyper. Any ideas? I just wonder what the behavior change in him was all about? He loves water, the river, his doggy pool but bath times are a no go these days.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sammy,

I think that your boy is playing with you. Try this. Put his leash and collar on him and bathe him as usual. Just go and get him and forget the
commands and as if is like you are going to teach him again. He forgot his training temporarily, so you need to remind him that the rules have not
changed. After a bath my dogs run around and do what I call "frisk around" as though they feel really good. They dry faster this way too. If this
"frolic like" behavior is outside, which it is for me, it is okay for him to act this way. If you have him in the house, then of course you must remind
him of the house rules. If it were me though, I would let him be outside and allow him to run it off as it is great exercise and he will dry faster too.

I hope this idea will help.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Q: from Sammy
Date 18 August 2006
Time: 10:05 AM

Comments: Auaral Hematoma

My Doberman was just diagnosed with a hematoma in the pinnae of his ear. The recommendation is to have surgery to correct this. Any advice? I have heard that not having surgery will result in an unsightly, ugly looking ear.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sammy,

This is true. I have had this happen on occasion and the surgery was successful and the ear is normal. It is true that if you let it go, you
stand the chance that the ear will not heal normally. It will sort of  be cauliflower-like if not treated. I would recommend treating it as your
veterinarian recommends. Talk to you veterinarian about the possible results of the surgery if you like. Have him/her tell you all about the procedure
etc.

Good luck.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Sammy: 

We can not give medical advice on this website.  You should get a second opinion if you are not sure about the first advice you received from the veternarian.

Q: from Sam
Date 18 August 2006
Time: 10:04 AM

Comments: Weight

My 4 1/2 yr old Male Doberman is still gaining weight. The vet says he is in perfect health & weight. He is trim w/ only a thin layer of fat over his ribs. He exercises every day. My concern is he has gained 4 lbs over 2 months. Is this unusual or just a matter of him fully maturing. I assumed he had stopped growing at 18 months.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

As a Doberman gets older, he usually needs less food to sustain their proper weight. However, you may want to have his thyroid (a full panel) checked to
see if that is normal. Also in the summertime, they need less food than in the winter.

I would put him on a summer diet (less food) and see if he either stays (or continues to gain) the same or loses weight first. If he continues to gain,
do the thyroid test.

Other symptoms of thyroid and more information are outlined in the article on thyroid on our pages.

I hope that this helps.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Q: from Luther
Date: 9 August 2006
Time: 3:43 PM

Comments: growing to their maximum size

How long does it take for Dobermans to grow to their maximum size?

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Dear Luther,

I've had some dogs hit their maximum size at 7 mo. and then just fill out for a year or more. Others take about 18 mo. Bitches reach their maximum height at about 1 year or when they come in season the first time.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Luther:

It depends. Every Doberman is different but usually by the time they are 18 months they have reached their full size.

Q: from Lorry
Date: 5 August 2006
Time: 2:52 PM

Comments: Grooming show Dobes

Hello,

Where can I find information about how to groom in detail from head to toe the show Doberman?

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

This is all we have on our Article Menu. Perhaps someone else will be able to answer your query more fully.

TRAINING/GROOMING
www.breedered.com/bathing_dogs.htm
www.breedered.com/readytoshow.htm
www.breedered.com/teach_tail_up.htm
www.breedered.com/tipstoshowpups.htm

TRAINING
www.breedered.com/key_lesson_1.htm

www.breedered.com/key_lesson_2.htm
www.breedered.com/key_lesson_3.htm
www.breedered.com/key_lesson_4.htm
www.breedered.com/key_lesson_5.htm
www.breedered.com/heavy_head.htm
www.breedered.com/conformation.htm
www.breedered.com/conformation_QA.htm

Q: from Nina Brogdon
Date: 12 July 2006
Time: 5:49 PM

Comments: Snapping

Our 6 month old Dobie has recently been "snapping" at us when she wants attention or when we "stare" her down. Is this a bad habit? Should it be corrected and, if so, how?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello

No it isn't a habit but it will be. Number one, when you stare at her, you are challenging her in her language. When she is snapping at you, she is initiating play in her language and treating you like another dog or a littermate. So when you stare at her, you need to be talking to her and doing it in a way that she doesn't feel that you are challenging her.

When she is snapping at you, tell her no and offer her a toy or a little game of tug and end the game when you want to.

I am trying to think of an article that I can send you to. Maybe Super Dogs Are Made Not Born would be a good one to start with. It talks about the different ages and what the puppy does at these certain stages and what you should do and not do.

A second one is Dominance so you can read about why dogs do what they do, not because I think that you are a problem owner. You need to learn about what I call "how to speak dog". So look around our articles page and click on titles that may help you gain some knowledge about this. You need to be teaching your puppy her perimeters. She needs to learn the rules and it is up to you to let her know them.

You should maybe look for an obedience instructor that knows Doberman and either enrol in her classes and get private lessons, you be the judge.

You need to nip this in the bud and this reminds me of another article that is on our pages, Nip Nipping In The Bud. Also go to the training section of the articles page and read some of the articles listed there such as Out Means No and I Said Wait.

If you do this you will likely have a wonderful, well mannered companion. Please do this.

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Are you sure she is "snapping" as some dogs do a teeth clicking and may even show their teeth.  Others may grin.  If it's this, it's just a cute way to
get attention.  If she is indeed snapping and trying to make contact or growling that is a different matter.  You mention staring her down.  That is
totally uncalled for and an invitation to get bit by any dog.  It's an aggressive movement on your part.  You NEVER EVER stare down a dog of any
age or any breed.

I would doubt a 6 month old pup means anything by it but you should definitely start training her to stop it.  A firm NO and walking away from her or
giving her a bone or ball or some toy is the way to stop this.  It sounds like she wants attention and is acting out.  Try this method and see if it
takes care of the problem.

Q: from Lorry

Date: 9 July 2006

Time: 4:35 PM

Comments: Ears

I have a six month old pup that has a long ear crop.  The problem is that instead of his ears standing straight at attention they seem to touch and cross in the middle making an X.  How can I correct this?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Lorry,

You can correct this.

First of all you need to know why they are doing this. The ears most likely have formed pockets. The pocket on the ears forms at the skull on the top of
the head and on the back side of the ear. It is located right where the ear attaches to the head and where there is a natural fold. Make a post and insert into the ear pulling the tip of ear out to about a 10 or two o'clock position depending on which ear (remember out) and using a 2 inch piece of tape. At the bottom of the ear bring the tape around low on the ear with the bottom of the tape slightly lower then the top of the head. Apply at a slight angle front to back. If you look closely you will see the pocket pop out when you do this. When you do this make sure that the post does not ride up out of the ear hole. Keep it pushed down tight.

For an article about taping older puppies ears, see this article and it is the last one, #12.
http://www.breedered.com/ears1.htm
http://www.breedered.com/ears12.htm

We have a new ear taping article up, click here:
http://www.breedered.com/PDF/Auch_Ear_Taping.pdf

You can also buy a booklet which covers problem solving by Bonnie Wittrock by calling 503-472-6688.

Keep trying, be patient and you will succeed. Your puppy is only 6 months old so you have a great chance to correct this. You will enjoy the results
too for the lifetime of you companion.

I hope that this helps you.

Sometimes your breeder can put you in touch with a fellow Doberman breeder that can help that lives near you too.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Lorry: 

There is a method you can use with wine corks.  You cut the wine cork in half long ways so you have a rounded side and a flat side.  You back wrap the tap on the cork, sticky side out and place the flat side out and the rounded side in the ear just above the bottom (the little knob on the inside of the ear).  Then you wrap the ear around the cork, gently, not too tight.  The cork will force the well out and the ears outward.

Q: from Ryan Leasure

Comments: Male Dobe

Hello. My 15 month old male was recently bred and has now developed a new "problem". Soon after he was bred, and more within the last two weeks, he has started hiking his leg on EVERYTHING. This includes the items in my household. The corners of my bed, my couch, my stairs, my fridge, and who knows where else. Now, my wife has had a VERY SMALL (3lbs.) Chihuahua for about 2 years. He is fixed but still thinks that he is 10 ft. tall and bulletproof. He does not pee on things, but I am beginning to wonder if the little man has something to do with my Dobies new found form of entertainment. The male Dobe does not hurt the Chihuahua nor do we keep them separated. The little Chi. gets real mouthy with him though. Could this have something to do with this, or could it be that my blue bitch lives in the same household. She is not in heat. She just went out of season the end of Feb. What should I do?

Thanks, Ryan

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Ryan,

You will need to re-train your young stud dog to not to pee in the house. He seems to be "feeling his oats" after the deed. Remember you are the head
honcho in the household and you boy needs a reminder about this fact. There are articles on our pages about how to housebreak him again. He also could
be develop behavioral problem if you do not get a handle on this behavior now.

You can also make a belly belt for him or buy one. While he is in the house you can tie a strip of cloth around his belly and include his penis and have
him wear that while he is in the house. You can buy one of these from http://www.sunnyhilldesigns.com.

If you don't feel the need to do this, follow him around the house and correct him for this undesirable behavior.

It would be better in the long run if you could train him out of this bad habit.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Ryan:

You can purchase an item, I am not sure of the proper name something like belly belt that you put on your Dobe when he's in the house and he will stop lifting his leg. It's made of cloth and not uncomfortable.

You can order this from a vendor called Sunnyhill. You can reach them through email at sunnyhilldesigns@sbcglobal.net .

Good Luck

Q: from Ryan Leasure
Date: 26 June 2006
Time: 2:05 PM

Hey, I can't access the Q&A site. My question is, Once a WZ always a WZ. Does a Dobe always get this if it has albino in it's line, or does it go back to a normal number after so many generations. How many generations?

Thank you, Ryan

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Yes, the WZ remains forever or at least that is what AKC told the DPCA.  At first all Albino’s had the W number but later on, all the progeny of Sheba produce received the WZ number to show that Albinism is carried in these lines.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Ryan,

Judy Doniere can answer this question the best since she was involved with the albino Doberman from the very beginning. The way that I understand it is that the WZ number is assigned to all Dobermans that come from the original albino, Sheba. These white factored dogs will always have that number. It is a way for us to recognize the Doberman that come from the albino lines no matter what color that they are. Most reputable breeders do not want to incorporate these factored dogs into their lines. I am one of many that does not want these dogs in my line.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Q: from Leslie Franzese
Date: 20 June 2006
Time: 8:26 AM

Comments: Is blanket sucking normal? Also, 6 months old and one ear stand and the other one not quite yet.

I have a Doberman pup who just turned 6 months old and weighs almost 70 lbs. I have two questions, the first one is about blanket sucking. He seems to love sucking on a blanket. Is this OK? I've heard that it's normal. Also, regarding his ears. We have them splinted up with the "quick brace" which works wonderfully. It stays on for about 5 days and them pops off on it's own. When it comes off, his right ear is fine and stands consistently straight up. His left ear, though, will stand on it's own for one to three days and then all of a sudden it falls 1/2 way down and points directly sideways. It doesn't fall gradually, it goes from standing straight and beautiful to pointing out to the side. As soon as it falls, I use the quick brace to put the ears back up (which is both ears splinted). I'd appreciate any help as I'm a first time Dobie puppy owner. My two previous Dobies I got as adults (they were both 4-5 years old) because we adopted them. One already had his ears cropped and the other has his ears natural. Any help you can give me in the pup world would be appreciated. Thanks!

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Leslie,

Blanket sucking is fairly common, although I personally haven't had one of my dogs do this so far. I don't know whether or not one should figure a
way to stop it or just let it go. Hopefully one of the others can give you good information from their experiences.

I will say that I am a handler and I have traveled with a lot of different Dobermans over the years and have not had a lot of blanket suckers, but I have had them.

About the ears, just keep taping them. Re-tape them as soon as they fall or the one falls. Tape them both. You are getting close, so don't give up. It
is common that we are taping past the age of 6 months for perfection. You will be happy in the end that you stuck it out and have perfectly standing
beautiful ears.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Leslie:

Blanket sucking is normal and many Dobes do it. I would not worry unless he is eating the blanket and then I would be concerned about him getting a blockage.

As to the ears, 6 months is not too old to continue to post the ears. It's not uncommon to require wrapping up to 12 months of age so I would continue doing what you are doing. I would not wait until the ear falls however, I would take them down to rest for a short period and then put them back up immediately.

Good luck.

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Dear Leslie,

Yes, sucking is not that unusual. It's like a kid sucking it's thumb. It's his security blanket. I know people who think it's terrible but many of my own dogs have their "suckie toys" or Blankies. It keeps them happy so I'm happy. As long as he doesn't chew it.

As to the ear. I wouldn't use any stays in the ear now. Just a couple strips of tape at the base for a few days. I don't tape more than 4 days.

If you can "bait" him once the ear starts to fall and he can bring it up,then I'd probably leave it alone and just play with him so he gets used to using it. If it doesn't come up then tape it at the base and the other as well and put a brace between them. Check out our ear taping articles on this site.

Q:  from David S
Date: 14 June 2006
Time: 10:26 AM

Comments: Other

Hi, My 1 year old Dobe Cody is developing white patches all over his body, around his eyes, etc. He does has loss of pigmentation and it has been referred to by the vet as Vitiligo. Do the white patches have anything to do with the Vitiligo? Have you heard of this before?

Cody looks very old but is only a puppy. What can I do?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA 

Hello David,
I have no idea what this could be. I would suggest that you take her to the veterinarian if you haven't already. I sure would like to know what you find
out though. I think that this is very unusual.

Thank you.

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A:  from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

If your Vet is sure it's not Demodex or a Staph infection then I do not know what it could be and we do not diagnose Veterinary problems.  I would
suggest you contact a Specialist referred by your Vet.

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A:  from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

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A: from Judy Bohnert, EQUINOX Perm ® Dobermans, Canada

First allow me to state that we are not vets and therefore we can ONLY offer advice. I have never had any experience with this problem (yet) but I did do a search on the internet and came up with the folloing. I can only hope it is of some help to you...

Vitiligo refers to a skin depigmentation from an unknown cause while the terms leukoderma and leukotrichia are used to describe pigmentation loss in skin and hair, respectively.

The good news is that the depigmentation is unlikely to cause any health problems. Leukoderma and leukotrichia often develop in areas of trauma and inflammation; consider the white hair regrowth.

Dermatology diseases such as onchocerca infestation, lupus, frostbite, burns, or sun damage can result in leukoderma.

Spotted leukotrichia appears as multiple, body-wide spots of hair depigmentation. Some animals may develop vitiligo, undergoing a skin depigmentation for unknown reasons. The areas may spontaneously repigment in a few years.

Treatments for the actual depigmentation consists of treating any obvious underlying disorder such as removing trauma, deworming, and preventing sunburn or frostbite.

Steroids and anti-inflammatories have been attempted in some depigmentation cases with varying degrees of success. However some vets simply state that there is no treatment.

What is recommended holisticly is an external oil that is rubbed onto the area consisting of a mix of the following.

Hypericum - for nerve endings,
Cajuput - stimulates circulation,
Cod Liver Oil- high in A and D vitamins,
Wheat Germ Oil- high in Vitamin E.

Good luck. Please let us know how you make out.

Q: from Bonnie
Date: 13 June 2006
Time: 1:57 PM

Comments: Breeding

I bred my bitch almost 7 weeks ago - 3 times during the beginning of her heat. I have only noticed a slight weight gain. I understand from your articles that the puppies (if any) are very small at this stage in the game. But what would the average weight gain be at this point? I do feed a very good, quality dog food - suitable for puppies and active dogs. I have been feeding her a small lunch for a couple of weeks, and slowly increased her other two meals. We are going for an x-ray on Monday, so hopefully I will get a count on number of puppies. I did not have her palpated, and my vet does not have an ultrasound machine.

Thanks for your opinion, once again!

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

If I read your post correctly, you said you bred her at the beginning of her heat.  That for the majority of dogs is very early and she may not be pregnant at all.  If a Dobe the "average" time is anywhere between 10 and 14 days but I must say I've had a couple bitches take on their 8th day and one on her 29th and 31st days.  In 50 years, these are the rare ones.  Most times it's 11th and 13th days or even 13th and 15th days but it depends on the bitch.  Like women, their cycles can run differently.

Don't x-ray before the 8th week.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Bonnie,

Most females are not ready to accept a male until they are well into their heat period. The is that occasional female that is ready to be bred early in her heat period though.

There are articles on our pages about the weight gain. Go here and read the article beginning on page 14.

I would think that by now, the 7th week, you should have noticeable signs that your bitch is pregnant. If you do x-ray her, wait until she is in her 8th week.

If she is pregnant, our pages offer a lot of articles about the whelping and the raising of your litter. In fact the article that I am referring you to has articles about the whelping and the rearing of your litter. Please read them.

Thank you.

Q: from Anna Belliveau
Date: 12 June 2006
Time: 10:29 AM

Comments: Temperament

I have a 6 year old neutered male who is not dominant and gets along well with other dogs, males included. I would like to get a 3 year old neutered male from a shelter and I have already taken my dog there to introduce them. They were both on leash and seemed to want to play together. They were not aggressive towards each other. Do you think this would work out?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Anna:

I would not recommend having two male Dobermans, even neutered ones. There is always the risk of a confrontation and then you will have to keep your house divided.

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A: from Judy Doniere, Darwinb Dobermans, USA

I would not recommend it. It could possibly work but what if it doesn't? You may find a dead dog and one dying. It's not something that one can predict and the chances aren't worth taking in my opinion.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Anna,

We don't not usually recommend two male Dobermans living together in the same household. Your male could be an unusually nice boy towards other males but what if he decides not the share his own household with another male? He could very well decide this once the new male arrives into his domain. If they don't get along, you would have to give one of them up and it would most likely be the new Doberman. It may not be a fair thing for him to have to be displaced yet once again because the two males may not get along. He should be able to go into a home where he is the only male.

I don't recommend taking this chance of expecting two adult male Doberman Pinschers to live amicably in the same household.

Q: from Bob Van Wuyckhuyse
Date: 11 June 2006
Time: 11:23 AM

Comments: studding

My Rotti Thor has two mates ready to breed and for some reason he is humping, or trying to hump, both of them from the side. Sometimes he gets on the back of them and looks like he wants to penetrate but then the bitches whine for a second and then he stops. He is licking them both and also both bitches are accepting Thor. Both bitches are virgins as is Thor so my question to anyone is should I help them get started or should I just let them be to figure it out on their own?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Bob,

While we usually try to stay on track and answer questions about the Doberman Pinscher, with this question, I am sure the answer would be the same as for a Doberman. I an positive that you can search through our archives and our article section in order to find an answer to your question.

You should be aware of health testing and many of other issues in both Rottweilers and Doberman Pinschers ... these breeds are very much the subject of breed specific legislation therefore all of us must be ever vigilant that we breed dogs for all the right reasons.

You may want to check with the American Rottweiler Club web pages and read about this responsibility as concerns Rotts.

You can also find of articles about breeding and responsibility on the DPCA, Public Education pages.

There is so much responsibility when breeding dogs, for both the stud owner as well as the owner of the female and the resulting puppies, in finding good forever homes for the puppies and the responsibility of just owning a Rottweiler.

We, as fanciers of both breeds, have the same concerns and a very strong need to educate JQP on how to care for our breeds at any level.

Thank you for listening.

Q: from Linda

Date: 9 June 2006

Time: 1:29 PM

Comments: breeding

My femail doberman had a litter of pups 1year ago. she just had her heat and she bred with her pup. I was wundering if that was interbreeding.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

No, I'd call it STUPID BREEDING!!!

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Linda,

Yes this breeding of son to mother is indeed considered inbreeding (or as you say interbreeding).

How did you allow this to happen. It is not always a good thing to do. Did this just happen in the last couple of days? If so, you can take her to the vet and he may be able to do something to prevent the pregnancy. You can also have her spayed within a certain time. You should consider these possibilities if you do not or cannot properly raise a litter of puppies again so soon. Talk to your vet to consider all of the options that are available to you with this accidental breeding.

I hope that we are helpful to you.

Q: from Brent
Date: 5 June 2006
Time: 8:02 AM

Comments: skittish behaviour

I have a 16 month old female Dobe and lately she has been hiding from other dogs and in some cases jumping back an yelping. What's weird is that she walks everyday with 4 other dogs and plays in the park. When she encounters strange dogs in the park she's fine. This has been going on for a few months. I originally thought it was just part of growing up and that she would adjust, but it's been the same. In addition there is no pattern of the type of dog....small, medium, big, male female. When she senses it's a dog she knows she's fine. She displays this behaviour with all strange dogs and is afraid. While I certainly would rather this behaviour than aggression, it concerns me a bit. She has never been attacked that I know of and her dog walker confirms the same. Is there something I can do from a training standpoint when she's approaching a new dog? Have you ever heard of something similar? Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Brent,

This is a tough one. I am understanding that this behavior is new by what you say. I can refer to you an article that we have on our pages, Critical Behavior Periods by Carol Kufner. http://www.dpca-breedered.com/critbehav.htm. I would try following her ideas and continue to have her around the other dogs and work on making her comfortable with them again. Another good article is Super Dogs Are Made Not Born, http://www.dpca-breedered.com/superpuppy.htm

I hope that this helps you and your girl.

Here is what Carol says in her article.

SECOND FEAR IMPRINT PERIOD 6 to 14 MONTHS
Characteristics:  Sexual maturity, hormonal changes. Fearfulness of new situations, objects, people, other dogs. Male dogs begin lifting legs. Some
individuals will pass through this periods faster than others, often with no noticeable problems.  Others may display marked changes in behaviour in
strange situations.

Reinforce the behaviours you want; do not reinforce fearfulness by coddling or protective behaviour.  But also try to avoid punishing fearfulness.  Try to adopt a firm but patient and kindly attitude to the pup's fearful behaviour. Continue socialization to humans and other dogs.  Avoid or postpone extremely stressful or traumatic experiences for animals that appear to be in this fear imprint period.

Note:   This primer on critical stages of development is an attempt to consolidate information appearing in a variety of publications from a number of authors, and to tailor that information specifically to the needs of breeders.

Remember that consistency and PRAISE are the key words here.

written by Carol Kufner, Winwood German Shepherds
submitted by Judy Bohnert, Equinox Dobermans, CA.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Brent:

I would try to get into an all breed socialization/obedience class and work her through it. To me it sounds as though she was bitten or treated aggressively by a strange dog since this is a recent issue and has not been an issue all along. Be sure there is nothing medically wrong, but since she's fine with dogs she knows I would believe it's more a confidence building issue than medical. You might check with a local dog club in your area and see if they have private trainers as well.

Q: from Chris & Zeus

Date: 1 June 2006

Time: 2:28 PM

Comments: Other

My girlfriend just had a baby and I want to know if I should take my 3year old German Dobe with me. He'll have more room there than if he stays with my mom and dad. The house I'm moving to is a 2-story with a big back yard fenced. In the place I'm at now there is a double wide trailer and no fenced in yard. He spends most of his time on a chain or in his pen. What should I do?

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Chris and Zeus,

I am not too sure that I understand your question but I will try.

I would definitely take your Doberman with you to your new home especially if he has a fenced yard and more room. That would be a much better situation
for him than being tethered to a chain. He will also be a much better family dog and he will love your new addition to the family if he is allowed into your home and allowed to be an integral member of the family.

Yes, take him with you Chris. There are many articles on our pages to help you make him part of your family and a well mannered dog in the house as
well as the yard.

Q: from Sam
Date: 2006 June 01
Time: 8:47 AM

Comments: Temperament, Dominance Aggression

My 4 y r old Dobie is great with humans but he is naturally a very dominant, strong dog. He has been playing with the same few dogs for over 3 years since he was a puppy. Usually he plays great but in play, it is quite obvious HE is the dominant dog. Just the other day we had an incident. All the dogs were excited and the energy level was high. I took a toy out of my Dobie's mouth and w/out even thinking placed it back in the toy box. Then the Basset went to the box and tried to pick up the same toy. My Dobie attacked him and put him down. After a minute I separated them and then it appeared that my Dobie was sorry. He sniffed the Basset and licked him. Do you think my Dobie acted that way because he perceived that I took the toy from him so then no one else should get it? I know it is hard to say but sometimes I know there are behaviors that I am not aware of and end up bringing unbalance to the "dog pack" hierarchy. When he was young he loved all dogs, now he is mature
and is only accepting of a few dogs that he trusts. He just doesn't feel the need to be social with other dogs especially males although my Dobie has been neutered since 5 months old, he would rather have his human pack. Any additional info would be great.

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

This is not uncommon behavior for a male any kind of a dog. I think that he was telling the Basset that the toy was his and he did say that he was sorry
in his doggy language.

It could be that you may have to not have toys present when he is running with other dogs and especially males. You will have to be the "alpha", the
boss, of all of the dogs in the group. If your boy's aggressive behavior with other dogs continues, you may have to consider not running him with other dogs.

If you choose to continue running him as you have, watch for aggressive stances and body language, and correct him before things get to be out of hand. I think that your chances are good to have him behave around other dogs since he has been good for as long as he has. Some Dobermans have successfully been able to get along with other males but it takes a lot of "paying attention" by his human "pack leader".

I would like to refer you to this article (Canine Behavior) that is on our pages, http://www.dpca-breedered.com/canine_behavior.htm and click onto the
highlighted words within this article for more information. 

I hope that this helps you make the right decision for your Doberman and his friends.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Sam:

Male Dobermans do not generally get along with other male dogs, even if they are neutered. It's in their nature to be dominant and they are not a good pack animal. They were bred to work independently with humans and that temperament is embedded in their nature. There are some males that will indeed get along with other males but not generally. As for the incident that occurred in your home, you took the toy from you Dobe and placed it back in the box. He allowed you to do that, thus you being the dominant one in that situation, however, he became jealous when the second dog took the toy after it have been taken from him. When they get excited as in this case there is always the risk of confrontation and play should be watched closely. Toys, balls, etc. tend to promote possessive behaviors.

Q: from Ryan Leasure
Date: 20 May 2006

Time: 9:30 PM

Comments: banding

I have recently read the article on banding pups' tails. I am considering banding my pups tail, and also have a lady who wants me to band her litter that is due to whelp in 18 days. Now I read and completely understand all of the things mentioned except one thing. Do the bands come in different sizes. If so, what size should I purchase. I plan to purchase the equipment tomorrow. Any info or advice would be great. The main reason that we want to band the tails is it sounds like it is great all around. My bitches tail was docked horrible. Huge bald thing at the tip. Seems like this is a problem because nobody around her who has had or have a Dobe likes the way the tails were docked. Cheesey vets! They are all pointy, bald, or too long. So I figured I am going to try and help the situation and band them. They say they look the best, and I know that I can do it with no problems. I have much faith in myself. (BIG SMILE).

Thanks, Ryan

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

I've never banded so I can't help you.  As to the bald tails, that is not a Vet's fault.  It's the dam who is licking and tearing open the tails and taking out stitches.  I've had bitches do this is the tails were stitched, glued, left un-stitched.  They just can't leave them alone.  I don't know if banding would help or not.  Good luck.

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A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans

Hello Ryan,

I have not had experience with banding tail myself, but the author of the article on our pages has been very successful using this method. A few other
breeders have as well. To answer your question about the size of the bands, I don't know. You can contact the author of the article, Judy Pritchard, at
skylocke@toledotel.com and get the answer from her as to the size to buy.

If you decide not to go the banding route and you have a vet cut the tails again, I can offer some guidelines to ask your vet to consider. I have had successful tailing dockings by a veterinarian with these suggestions. The Doberman's tail should be docked at the 2nd joint but granted, at three days, it is hard to see the joints. Because the Doberman is a very tight-skinned dog it is necessary to leave a lot of extra skin on the tail. I ask my vet to pull the skin towards the body of the puppy and cut the tail a little long and look and make a second cut of the cartilage only, not the skin.

I ask the vet to leave half of the rust marking and/or leave enough of the tail to cover the anus. The last time with my vet, I used the words that the Doberman is a tight skinned dog and it is as though that they are "poured into their skin" and he "got it" and actually commented that he liked that description. End result, the tails are awesome!

Another trick is to wash the area of the surgery well and keep the puppies away from the dam (mother dog) for at least three hours. You can let the
puppies suckle if needed but stay there until they are done and take them away again. You usually don't need to do this but if you do, attend to them and
try to not allow the dam to lick their newly cut tails. By keeping the dam away, the tails have a chance to coagulate and after a length of time, the dam is not as apt to lick the wounds. Keep an eye on her and try not to allow her to lick the ends of the tails, but only what they need to lick.

Hopefully you will have enough skin on the end of the tail, the bone will not grow through the end. There is no sign of a scar as it closes up beautifully.

For a while when the puppies are growing from 3 days to 8 weeks, you will see excess skin on the tail, but the bone will grow into it. With this litter, the space between the bone and the end of the cut tail was about a half inch or so.

Anyway, contact Judy Pritchard for the details of the banding and also for what size of band to use.

I hope that we have helped you.

Q: from Bonnie
Date: 26 May 2006
Time: 8:10 AM

Comments: Color Coat Genetics

Hi. I am trying to completely understand genetics with coat coloring. My question is more towards the dilutes. I do understand that the dilute gene needs to be on both sides of the parents. But how far back in the line (grandparents, great grandparents, etc) can this gene be? Example: If the bitch is BbDd, because she has one red and one blue parent, and the male dog is BbDD (I think) - because he has one red parent & one black - but he also has a blue in his line 5 generations back. Would HE still carry a dilute gene, or is it 'washed' out because of so many generations? Thank you for your help!

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Bonnie,

By the sound of your letter, it sounds as though you have referred to the Doberman Pinscher color chart that is on our articles page, http://www.dpca-breedered.com/colorinheritance.htm. You can print this chart out and find the parents of your dog and the chart will give you the percentages of the possible colors that one can get from a possible breeding. According to the chart, a BbDd bred to a BdDD can produce all 4 colors, but the chance of a dilute is 6.25% for a fawn and 12.5% and a 6.25% for a blue. According to what you say, both of your puppies parents are black.

I guess the question that I could ask is what color is your puppy from this union and also what are the colors of the littermates. I am sure that you can get this information from the breeder of your puppy.

The recessive dilute gene from the blue that is 5 generations back can carry forward and produce a dilute if it is bred to a dog that also carries the recessive gene for dilute.

I hope that I have explained this understandably. It is much easier to read the color chart printed out so you can write on it which I did not do.

Q: from Sam
Date: 25 May 2006
Time: 11:26 AM

Comments: Protective ?

I have had contractors in my home at various times recently for work. My 4 yr old Dobe is extremely friendly and accepting of whomever I accept. The contractor recently said he was very afraid of him and that he was bitten in the past by a Rott. I assured him my dog was friendly. He felt that he would act friendly while his "master" was around and no telling how he might act alone. There are a few instances I may need to allow them access to my home while I am not there. Is it safe to assume that my Dobe would behave ? Or could he possibly act differently when I am not home and he is home alone to defend his property?

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

It is not safe to assume that your Doberman will accept a stranger if you are not at home to make him accept the contractor. He will act differently when you are not at home and he will protect your home from a stranger. Actually, you would want this protective behavior in your Doberman. I don't feel that it is unreasonable for your contractor person to be fearful of your Doberman if he were to come to your place without you there. You could arrange it so that your contractor does not have to meet and deal with your Doberman whose natural instincts would be that he protect yours and his home. In those few instances, I would confine your Doberman so that the contractor can comfortably come in and do his work without the worry of a confrontation with him.

I hope that this helps you in this situation.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Sam:

I would not think that your Doberman won't protect your home while you are not there, after all that is what they were bred for, I would not take the chance.

Q: from Sam
Date: 25 May 2006
Time: 11:22 AM

Comments: African Gray Sibling

Hi.

My 4 yr old Dobe shares a home with my African Gray Parrot. When she is in her cage, he is fine. But out, he is extremely jealous. He will whine and cry and force me to pet him. I only assumed he would be "jealous" of other people or dogs. Is it reasonable to think he is jealous of a bird? Also, he knows not to attack our bird but at the river, he has a strong prey drive. He will point, flush and chase any bird. Is this normal behavior for a working breed?

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

It is possible that your Doberman is jealous of your bird. He could also be afraid of the bird because it is his instincts to chase, but he knows that he is not supposed to chase your bird in the house. Does his whine sound insecure or fearful or is it just a "pet me" kind of tone?

It is possible too that he can except your bird in the house and show his drives to wild birds that are outside. It can be normal for your Doberman to be alerted and point and watch birds while he is out on a run outside. I have seen Dobermans gleefully chase birds. I have also seen Killdeer birds tease the dogs into a chase. It is great exercise and they rarely catch a bird.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Sam:

This is perfectly normal behavior for a Doberman.

Q: from Sam
Date: 22 May 2006
Time: 12:26 PM

Comments: Foxtail In Ear

My 4 yr old Dobie recently had to have a foxtail removed from his ear cavity. He was at the river, when a foxtail lodged in his ear. He was sedated and it was removed. Since then, the ear has been "weak" and not standing erect. Do you think this is just temporary and perhaps the ear is still sensitive? It has only been 4 days since the incident. I am expecting it to stand erect as before. Any ideas? thanks.

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

You must live in the West. Foxtail's are bad things, that is for sure. I have had this happen too and after the inside of the ears heals from the irritation, his ear should return to normal. Has it?

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

I'm sure it's just the trauma of the removal. Unless the ear itself was cut, the ear should stand later on with no problem. Ask your Vet.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Sam:

Give it some more time for the healing.

Q: from Tiffany Baird
Date: 18 May 2006
Time: 5:15 PM

Comments: Vacations

My family is trying to plan a beach vacation preferably to Gulf Shores, Al or the Florida panhandle. We are having a difficult time finding accommodations allowing our 2 Dobermans, Tyson and Lola. They go everywhere with us and never miss a weekend at our family's lake house. Boarding them is not an option, we actually will not go if they cannot join us! I have spent hours searching pet friendly vacation sites and reservation sites, but with no luck. Does anyone take their Dobes to the beach? Any advice or references would be greatly appreciated!!!!

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Tiffany,

It seems to me that one of the insurance motor clubs have a book that tells us of pet friendly places that you can take your dog. AAA is the one that
comes to mind. There is a book out there somewhere.

I hope that you find a place to take them.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Tiffany:

I don't know what state you live in but if you go to a bookstore you can probably find a book about where you can go with your dog. It's usually located in the travel section or the pet section.

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Most Motel 6 allow dogs. There is a list of hotels that allow dogs, but I'm not sure of the name. I think you might Google to find Pet friendly hotels and see what comes up.

Q: from Renee & Brian Carrier
Date: 18 May 2006
Time 4:55 PM

Comments: Ear cropping

Hello! We purchased a purebred Doberman last fall and he's absolutely wonderful, except for the one floppy ear. We kept them tapped for until late this winter. He would have been 11 months old when we decided to give up tapping his ears. (His left ear was up since 5 months). I did read the other posting about ear cropping. His right ear seems to have a "kink?" or ridge of cartilage that isn't in the other ear. If he raises his head abruptly or the wind catches his ear it does stand straight...for a few seconds. He's 13 month old now, is there anything we can do correct his ear or is it to late? (I read a passage talking about a pocket in the ear...)I'm not familiar with the procedure or options available to "help" his weak ear.

P.S. Thor thanks you in advance.

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Renee and Brian,

In our articles section there are some ear taping articles and go to the 12th article. http://www.dpca-breedered.com/ears1.htm. This article tells you about taping older puppies ears. You may still be able to get the ears up. When you tape them make sure that you are stretching the edges.

You can also consider taking him to a ear cropping specialist for correction work.

You can also contact Bonnie Wittrock at Bonnie Wittrock Her e-mail address is as follows: bwittrock@macnet.com. Bonnie has written a booklet about ear taping that just may help you too.

I wouldn't give up just yet.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Renee:

I would try wrapping it although it's probably too late. Please check out this site for articles on taping ears. There are a lot of good suggestions. http://www.dpca-breedered.com/article_menu.htm

Q: from Steven & Anita
Date: 18 May 2006
Time: 8:31 AM

Comments: breeding problems (health issue)?

We have a Rottie/Warlock Dobie and we are questioning about whether or not brain compression is an issue? Such as he is more Rott than Dobie and we love him and he is having some serious health issues and we are worried and upset we may lose him soon? Please help with anything. I am sorry I had to add more but, we love him so much he is hacking all the time like he cannot breath some days worst than others. Also he is very independent and does not play well with others. We have recently seen some thing that upsets us also. We are in forced to put him on a cable which he is allowed normally to run free within a gate premises. He runs till cable slack is gone and it chokes him so hard he staggers and falls down, is this due to health issue? My girlfriend freaks out and gets very upset (me also). Sorry so long but, we will be lost without him.

Thanks for any Info.

A:  from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Steven,

Your theory, "We have a rottie/warlock dobie and we are questioning about whether or not brain compression is an issue?" The "small brain syndrome" is
proven not to be true. Rotts have big heads and Dobermans are known and bred for intelligence. I think that there could possibly be something else
going on with your dog.

I would advise that you take your dog to a specialist veterinarian and also possibly to a behavioralist or both. There are other medical and/or behavioral problems to be ruled out with your dog. Please have him checked out as soon as possible. I cannot diagnose on this forum, so go see a professional now. I cannot stress this enough.

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Get this dog off the cable and let him run inside an enclosed yard. Of course he's choking. Now, get him to a Vet for a check up. As to the brain thing, that is really a false rumor from big time idiots.

Q: from Sam
Date: 15 May 2006
Time: 12:30 PM

Comments: Canine Acne

I wrote recently regarding my Dobe's anal glands, and thank you for your advice. I took him to the vet and that is exactly what it was, the vet expressed them and he has been happier and more comfortable ever since ! My Dobe seems to have acne on his chin. The vet said there is an anti acne gel that can be used. Any advice?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

I am glad that you have the anal gland problem handled.

For the acne, go ahead and use what the vet suggested. Another suggestion would be is to wash his chin after he eats.

This problem is fairly common with a Doberman because their chin can get caked with food which causes the acne by clogging the pores or whatever.

During and after you get them cleared up use a little soapy water and clean the muzzle and the chin area and while you are treating it, apply the medication.

In the past I have cleared it up simply by adding a few drops of bleach into the soapy water to be used to wash the face.

Once it is cleared up, you should not have a problem with this again as long as you keep this area clean.

Q: from Brent Rivard
Date: 14 May 2006
Time: 5:54 PM

Comments: Rear Leg Muscles II

Thanks for your answers. I failed to mention that she is in no pain. I have poked around and performed some deep muscle tissue massage and there is no reaction whatsoever from her. I read about Dancing Doberman Disease and Wobblers but it doesn't seem to line up....in the description of DDD there is no mention of difficulty getting up. Have you had any experience with these? Does the fact that she's experiencing no pain add any additional thoughts? Thank you again.

A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Wobblers/Spondylosis/CVI can be present with or without pain. That really is no indication. A Specialist should be consulted.

Q: from Brent Rivard
Date: 14 May 2006
Time: 3:42 PM

Comments: Rear Leg Muscles

I have a 14 month old Dobe that 1 month ago had what appeared to be a stiffness in the rear legs when she got up in the morning. Since then it has progressed and she now has a difficult time getting up from either the lay down or sitting position. She is also hesitant when sitting in some situations. The confusing part is that once she's up she is normal....runs in the park, chases her ball etc. We are in the process of having further tests done, but I wanted to see if you had any insight. She has been cleared of hip dysplasia and I'm working with our vet to get to the bottom of it. Anything you can offer is appreciated.

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

This definitely sounds like you should take her to a good Orthopedic Vet. You might also consult a good Vet Chiropractor as well as it may be a spinal problem but for sure something is going on and should be looked at by a Professional.

Q: from Sam
Date: 10 May 2006
Time: 3:49 PM

Comments: Anal Glands

Have you ever heard of Dobermans needing their Anal Glands manually expressed by a vet? I have heard of other breeds, but have never had this problem with my Dobe. Lately he has been licking his tail, not sure I should be alarmed? Thx

A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA

Hello Sam,

This does happen occasionally so I would take him and have him checked by your veterinarian. Often you may notice an odor too, but not always. It
can't hurt to have him checked out.

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A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

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A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA

Yes, I just had my 9 1/2 year old Dobe have an infection in an anal gland. She was put on Antibiotics for 30 days until it cleared up. Never had another in all my years of raising Dobes either, but it does happen.

Q: from Jessica Darnell
Date: 5 May 2006
Time: 3:26 PM

Comments: Other

I have a 7 month old male Dobe who has been a wonderful and easily trainable pup but he hates being left alone or even locked up where he can see us .He doesn't mind an actual car ride but cannot stand being left alone in the car or anywhere else for that matter. If I have him on a leash outside and he can see me but not reach me he has a barking fit. I have read and watched everything i can get my hands on and nothing has given me any information on this type of problem. He's not barking out of fear ,boredom ,or being lonely. He just cant stand to not have anyone within reach. Is he always going to be this way or is it something he will grow out of or that i can train him out of?

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Jessica:

Can you tell us what your puppy does when you leave him/her? It would help for us to be able to give you advice. You say he barks when you have him on leash -- is that what he does when you leave him?

Q: from Patricia Smith
Date: 1 May 2006
Time: 1:44 PM

Comments: splayed toes

My Maltese pup was born with a splayed toe- can anything be done- she is 10 weeks old

A: from Darlene Young, Darwin Dobermans, USA

Patricia:

I am not familiar with Maltese but I would ask a veterinarian about whether or not anything can be done with the splayed toe.

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