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Q: from Edwin Blevins
Date: 18-07-08
Comments: registration certificate
How do I get certificates on my Doberman puppies? Their father is
registered
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello,
I guess that I have a question for you as I assume that you have the
puppies. Is the dam (mother) registered with the kennel club of your
country? In the U.S. it is the American Kennel Club and in Canada, it is
the Canadian Kennel Club. I will use the American Kennel Club as an
example. On the registration certificate of the mother dog is an address
for the American Kennel Club. Write to them to get an application to
register your litter (litter application). You will have to fill it out
and have the owner of the sire (father) sign it too. You then send it back
to the AKC with the required fees and they will process it and send you
back individual forms for each puppy. Then the new owners will fill those
out and send them with the proper fees to the AKC and they will be
processed and each puppy will be registered. The AKC will require you to
keep records of the puppies and to who and where that each of them go.
They will send a form to you for you to do this requirement.
I hope that this helps you.
Q: from KM
Date: 16-07-08
Comments: Temperament
I have a 13 month old intact male Dobie I purchased as a potential
conformation/obedience/agility prospect. He is very insecure and unsure
about strangers touching him. When people come to our house he is very
friendly but when he is approached off of our property he backs away,
often hiding behind me. When people try to coax him out with kind words or
treats he will wag his tail and will even do a play bow but will still not
allow himself to be touched. He is also frightened of anything new in his
surroundings, for example a traffic cone on the sidewalk or the garbage
cans on the street. I took him home when he was 11 wks old and socialized
him as I do all of my puppies (new places and faces everyday). He was
enrolled in a puppy obedience class @ 4.5 months and continues to attend a
formal obedience class once a week (he is doing excellent!). I also have a
Golden Retriever that I am showing in conformation, rally & obedience and
my Dobie goes everywhere with us.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Dear KM,
My first question to you is have you stayed in touch with the breeder?
Have you told her all this and if so, has she any suggestions? Did this
pup come to you as a shy dog in the first place or is this something new
that he is so afraid of so many things?
Many male dogs going through teen age stages get kind of nutty. The best
thing is to not make a big deal out of it. Your friends trying to coax him
from behind you is not going to do anything except make him more inclined
to be even more suspicious.
What I would do is when you see a friend coming up to you or find one and
have that person take the dog for a walk. You stay home. Have them take
some treats but the only time he gets one from your friend is when he does
something right. Some dogs get mommyitis or daddyitis and the more they do
this, the more attention they get from their owner.
Does he stand still and bait in Conformation classes and let the "judge"
go over him? If he spooks or won't let them go over him, be very firm with
him and since he has Obedience classes, a STAND STAY! Might work. Do NOT
under any circumstances pet him or tell him it's ok and more or less give
him a lot of attention. If a friend stops to talk to you tell them to
totally ignore the dog. If the dog comes up to him give your friend a
treat and he can give it to the dog ONLY when the dog is begging for
attention. The more you ignore him the better he will be. No babying him
at all. Pretend he's not doing anything wrong and just ignore him. 'If he
spooks at a can or whatever, just walk him up to it and let him sniff it.
If he refuses, well I can't tell you how to get him up to it but believe
me, if I had him, I would do it if I had to carry him up to it. Let him
stand there for 10 min. and I'm sure he will just ignore it and not look
at it. Turn him around and walk him away from it a few feet and then walk
him back to it. See if each time you can get him closer. Don't talk to
him, just walk like you are going past it and make him do it. He is
pulling your chain. He is not afraid of things, he is doing it to get more
attention.
I would not take him for a walk with the Golden. He needs to be on his
own. If you know a good Professional handler who shows Dobermans, I'd talk
to them and see if you can send the dog with them for a couple weeks and
he'll learn to be a Doberman and not a Golden.
These are my suggestions after owning, breeding, showing, training &
judging them for over 50 years. I've had plenty of these males try this
from time to time and by doing what I said, they got over it. I made them
think that if they made me upset it was worse than anything they are
spooking at.
Q: from Sam
Date: 15-7-08
Comments: Dog Aggression
I have a 6 year old, neutered Doberman. He is quite well behaved at home,
gets 40 minutes of free run/exercise at the local river trail Every day,
is very social with people and kids and he also travels well with me
running errands all day. But only one vice- He does not do well with other
dogs. He is not overly aggressive and does not Seek out other dogs, it's
only when they approach us and he will usually allow one sniff greeting-
then that's it. It's almost as if they invaded his space and He Over
reacts often by Growling or acting aggressive as if to start a fight. By
now, I start to get anxious and nervous so I just avoid other strange dogs
completely. Do you have any training suggestions and what type would work
best for my Dobe? I was thinking of starting a beginner's agility to work
on his confidence and I have consulted 2 trainers in my Sacramento, CA
area but I wanted to get your idea on the best training method for this
behavior.
Thanks.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Sam,
He is a Doberman. He is BOSS. No male Dobe is going to allow another male
dog to get in his space. There is no amount of training that would allow
another male to come up that close to him. Best advice is to avoid other
male dogs all together before you end up with a bad dog fight. Tell others
to keep their dogs away from yours. You should train him in Obedience so
he is at least under control but it still won't remedy the problem.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Sam,
This is a hard one. Since you have contacted a couple of trainers, why not see
what they can do to help you. Taking him to an obedience class too would be
helpful. Be sure to find a class and/or a trainer or the instructor will teach
you how to train your dog as well.
When I am walking my dogs I have found that when they are on leash, they tend to
be more protective. When he raises his hair up, pet it down and tell him to be
calm. Hopefully by petting his hair down you will relax him. Do not allow your
boy to "posture" and put his head over the other dog's shoulders and don't allow
the other dog to do that to your dog. If this occurs, the next step is a fight.
You want to avoid a dog fight at all costs. Once this happens, it will be much
harder to remedy the problem. I would cease maybe from taking him for walks
where there are lose dogs until you can be advised by one of these trainers that
you have contacted.
The problem I find with dog parks and walking dogs is often time the other
persons that take their dogs know nothing about dog language let alone how to
avoid it.
Here are a couple of articles that may heal you learn how to read a dog.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/SPEAKINGDOGGISH.htm
Here is one that is on our pages about dealing with aggression.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/DEALING_WITH_AGGRESSION.htm
There are other articles too about temperament and behavior of the Doberman and
dogs in general.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/article_menu.htm
I hope that this will help you with this problem.
Also when you and your dog get into this position, try not to be fearful. This
behavior on your part can jump start your dog into aggression. Try to be calm
and assertive.
Q: from Susan Berres
Date: 9-07-08
Comments: obedience exercises for top 20 competition
Greetings,
I have a student coming for the top 20 obedience at the National this
year. It has been years since I attended this Event and I am trying to
prepare she and her dog. Is there some info on the format/exercises??
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
I talked to Sue Korp and she tells me you should have received an email
from Cindy Bohnert around July 8. Cindy needs to get the info in for the
TT catalog by the 20th. Apparently we will get what the pattern will be
probably sometime in August. The required exercises usually are heeling
(of course), Drop on recall, Retrieve over the HJ, Moving Stand, Directed
Jumping (no go outs), retrieve on the flat or gloves.
Q: from Rene
Date: 8-7-08
Comments: Conformation
My parents purchased a Doberman whom they planned on having me help show.
Conformationally, he is very correct, and he has a very sweet disposition,
and seems as though he would make a great show dog. He does, however,
carry the albino gene. They do not plan on breeding him, but in their
retirement, thought it would be fun to watch their 'kid' show and run
agility. Can he be shown in conformation classes even though he possess
this gene?
Thanks.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Rene,
You have asked, "Can he be shown in conformation classes even though he
possess this gene?". To answer your question, yes he can. JuD has given
you honest advice about breeding him .You did say that your parents are
not interested in breeding him and I do hope that this is the case. You
can show him in conformation but I would suggest that you go to a local
show and seek out someone (a Doberman person) who can evaluate him for
you. As JuD says, about the quality of these dogs is found to be true
also.
I hope that we have helped you with your question. Good luck with your
obedience and agility venture.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Rene,
Although dogs carrying the Albino gene may be shown as long as they
themselves are not Albino, the chances that your dog is good enough to
take points and finish his Championship are very slim as breeders of Show
stock never would use a dog that carries the gene, so it is not from show
parents. It is hard enough for top breeders to have dogs that possess the
qualities necessary for a Championship let alone one from non-show
breeding background. You mentioned you might want to compete in Agility
and I think that might be a better venue for you and the dog to compete
in. It's lots of fun for both exhibitor and the dog and it doesn't matter
the qualities of the dog. I would certainly have the dog neutered before
training as it makes for a better behaved dog and easier to train. Good
luck.
Q: from Robyn
Date: 7-7-08
Comments: Choosing A Breeder
We have been approved to adopt from a great Doberman Rescue in Texas. I
plan on bringing home a female adult. I do feel adult dogs are more
predictable and easy to read than a puppy. What do you recommend (when we
meet the Dobes) that we look for in a child loving Doberman? Our girls
have been taught from babyhood to be gentle with all animals, but any tips
you could give me would be great, as I am not experienced with this
particular breed. I am not a novice dog owner however. What are some good
signs that the dog we adopt is good with small children?
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Robyn,
I'm sure if you are adopting from a good Doberman Rescue unit they will
know exactly how this female is going to act with children. I would take
your girls to the adoptive home first to get acquainted with this female.
Watch how she acts and make sure you know the reason she was turned into
rescue. The rescue people usually keep these dogs for quite a while until
they know exactly how they act with children, other dogs, cats etc. If
they don't know, I would probably take her but you will have to make sure
she is totally supervised with your girls.
Have your girls give her some tidbits of food or dog biscuits until she
comes to the girls on her own. Don't let them run up to her or grab her
around the neck to hug her. All these things may come later, but for the
first few weeks just make sure you are always with them when they are
together. Take her for walks with the girls and just do things you would
normally do with any dog.
If you were purchasing her from a breeder that took back one of her own
dogs, they could tell you everything about her likes and dislikes.
Q: from Jason
Date: 5-07-08
Comments: Breeding/Placement Question
I've been told by quite a few people around my neighborhood that I need to
separate my Dobes before the female has puppies. She's approximately 4
weeks along. Will the male with the pups be like people keep saying or is
it ok to keep them together?
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
It really depends on the bitch that's going to have puppies. If she
doesn't usually get along with the other dogs, then by all means separate
them. I've always left my bitches with other dogs but keep playing with
her to a minimum. Once they have puppies, some bitches are very protective
of their pups and if she is, do not let other dogs in the room with her.
Later on when they are older, you might let other dogs in to see the
puppies when she's outdoors if she objects to them in the room.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Jason,
You should separate your female from the other dogs before she whelps (has
her puppies). You will need to find a place inside your home where you can
set up a whelping box ... a place where the other dogs don't go,
especially at first. The first three days are critical.
Please find on our articles page under the heading of Breeding and/or
Genetics many many articles about this process. There are plans for a
whelping box article there too. Go to
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/article_menu.htm and then scroll to this
section.
Here is a good article that will answer your question and confirm your
neighbors good advice:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/bitches_whelping.htm
We also have a new section that may be important to read and then give to
your puppy people when that time comes. On the Article Menu page scroll to
the heading: Breeding: Puppy Package.
There is a lot of studying for you to catch up on and it is all on our
pages. Please look at all of the articles and read them.
Here is one that you will need soon,
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/feeding_lactating_bitch.htm
This is a great thing to do for the puppies after they are her starting at
3 days old. Please read this article:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/battneurostimulation.htm and this one
tells you why these exercises are so good to do.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/battagliahiachievers.htm.
Also consider doing this, please read,
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/ruleof7.htm.
Here is another for a guideline:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/puppyadvice.htm.
There are so many articles that can and will help you prepare yourself for
this important commitment. Please if you need even more help, please ask
us. We may be able to refer you to an experienced breeder near you to call
on or I can too over the phone or hands-on.
Q: from Robyn
Date: 3-07-08
Comments: Choosing A Puppy
How much can I expect to pay for a pet quality pup, from a reputable
breeder? I think I will be going this route as this seems to be the best
situation for all involved. My girls thankfully are very respectful of
animals and have been taught to be gentle so a puppy would fit in nicely
with our home.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
For a pet quality male, I would expect you'd pay from $1000,00 to
$1500.00. For a pet quality female, from $1500.00 to $2000.00. This would
include docking of tails and cropping ears which most reputable breeders
include.
You know that they will expect you to Spay and Neuter these puppies once
they are old enough, usually before one year of age. They should have the
parents health tested for all that is done in Dobermans such as OFA for
hips and elbows, vWD by DNA, Thyroid, and Echo and Holter for hearts. No
one can or
should guarantee against heart defect such as Cardiomyopathy as it's in
all lines and we just cross our fingers that our puppies will live a long
and healthy life.
Q: from Robyn
Date: 3-07-08
Comments: Temperament
Thanks for answering Judy! I have a few more questions. Would a puppy be a
better choice for my situation? I want my 7 lb poodle to be safe and my
number one concern is that my children are safe. I've been told that an
adult's personality is easier to predict than a puppy, but as far as Dobes
go I am just not sure. There seems to be an equal number of dogs in
rescue, male and female that are not suited for homes with small children.
I have also found many males that are reported to be great with dogs and
love everybody. My mother has a female Dobie mix who absolutely loves my
children. Would an adult male or female be best? Any breed specific traits
of the different sexes would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Robyn,
A puppy might be better as you would raise it together but it's up to you to
make sure your child is never alone with a puppy or a dog until she knows you
don't pull ears or hit a dog etc. Children just don't usually know how to treat
a grown dog or puppy so it's up to you to teach both. Puppies have very sharp
teeth and when they play they bite and scratch young children so you have to
teach both to play safely so neither gets hurt. Puppies don't know any better so
they think a child is another puppy so that's how they play and it hurts. As far
as the poodle is concerned, a puppy would be better with it unless the grown dog
has been raised with a small dog
Q: from Robyn
Date 2-07-08
Comments: Temperament
I am eagerly looking to adopt a rescued Dobe female. I have a toy poodle
and two young children, ages 4 1/2 years and almost two. Is this a recipe
for disaster? My husband and I love the breed but I am a poodle person and
have never owned a Dobe. I have been doing a lot of research but would
like your opinion. My heart is set on having a jogging buddy and loyal
protector of my home and children. What is your advice on finding the
right female for my family?
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
If you go to a good rescue unit, I'm sure they will find the perfect Dobe
female for you that will fit into your family. Having a Toy Poodle is much like
really not having a dog compared to a dog the size of a Dobe. You must make sure
the bitch will like small dogs. With one that size, you can't take any chances
as it would take just one bite and that's it. Your children are quite young but
if they've behaved well with the Poodle, I would say the same thing. Make sure
the older female Dobe likes children.
Most long time breeders seldom sell Dobermans to people with children under 10
because the parents do not teach them how to behave around dogs and
young children cannot be expected to know not to pull ears or grab around the
neck of a dog that is new to the family. You must find out WHY the dog is in
Rescue to begin with. Was it a temperament problem or were the owners forced to
turn her in because of health or money problems.
As I said, most good rescue units screen the prospective new owners and I'm sure
they will find the right dog to fit your family and your Toy Poodle.
Q: from Nick
Date: 2-07-08
Comments: Ears Standing
I first must say what a great help you guys have been to my wife and I,
and of course our Doberman.
Our Doberman had his ears cropped nearly five weeks ago. His ears seem to
be doing really well, and I am curious as to when we can stop the taping
all together. We re-did the tapes this weekend, and they were out nearly
half of the day without a problem - the only reason my wife and I re-did
them was because we were going to bed, and didn't want to leave them down
over-night. Should we be okay at trying to leave his ears down longer? I
do understand that we will probably need to re-post periodically as he
continues to teethe, and grow. I am just afraid he might go to bed, and
he'll get up, but his ears won't, so to speak.
Thanks.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
First of all, thank you for the nice comments.
If the ears are standing strongly for the entire day, you might let them
go. Too much taping is as bad as too little. There is no need to keep
taping ears if they are standing. If they start to droop and you can't get
the pup to pull them up by baiting or playing with a ball or something,
then by all means tape them back up but if they can pull them up when they
alert, then there is no need to tape. You want the pup to use the ears.
When they are tired, they usually lay them back against the head. Dogs
don't keep ears standing all the time. But make sure that they are not
flopping at the half instead of the entire ear laying back as I was
talking about. Use your own judgment. If you think they should be taped at
night, tape them.
Q: from Mae
Date: 1-7-08
Comments: White Spot
I recently got a female red Doberman puppy with perfect rust markings. Her
only flaw is that in between the two rust chest markings there is a white
strip. It's not a very big patch of white hair and I wasn't concerned
until I found out that the woman I got my puppy from had breed her female
at a kennel that had several albino dobermans. This is her first litter
and she didn't know the history of white Dobermans until I told her. Her
husband told the kennel owners that they wanted a stud that didn't have
any possiblities for white offspring and they presented him with a large
black male. I'm just worried that the kennel owners lied to the couple I
bought my puppy from and that she might have to albino gene. Or is white
spotting fairly commom?
A: from Judy Bohnert, Equinox, Canada
White spots can and do occur in the breed BUT that doesn't rule out the
possibility of the albino gene being in her pedigree, especially in her
case.
Q: from John
Date: 29-June-2008
Comments: mating
Hello. I was wondering if its possible to find a female for my male to
mate. He was born on Sept. 9 2007. I know he's young but I just need to
find one around or in NJ and when its time I'll do it.
A: from Judy Bohnert, Equinox, Canada
It is customary for the owner of the bitch to find the stud, not the
other way around. In reality, very few males ever get used at stud. Often,
even a high profile, well-bred male rarely has one or two bitchs come to
him in his lifetime.
Q: from Stacey
Date: 29-June-2008
Comments: Ear Cropping
Can you help me find a reputable vet in my area that will crop my
Doberman's ears??
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Stacy,
There are a couple of ways that we can do this. You can tell us where that
you live so we can have an idea of where we can direct you or you can go
to www.DPCA.com and go to breeder
referral and click onto your state and find a breeder near you and contact
them for a possible referral. Your breeder too should be able to refer you
to if you are reasonably near the breeder of your puppy.
Most breeders have the ears cropped and healed before they have the puppy
go to their new home.
Good luck.
Q: from Julie Frank
Date: 27-June-2008
Comments: Handling
I just posted a question about the "getting ready" for the ring, I live in
Evansville, IN (southern IN) near the KY & IL border, & would like the
names of professional handlers.
Thanks again.
A: from Judy Bohnert, Equinox, Canada
I have no idea who handles in that area but some of the breeders located here
http://dpca.org/BreedRef/index_html.htm#Illinois may be able to help you
out.
Q: from Ashley
Comments:
Temperament
I just e-mailed the question about my male dogs with my Dobe - forgot to
mention that they are all neutered, except, of course, for the Dobe.
Thanks.
A: from
Q: from Ashley
Date: 27-June-2008
Comments: Temperament
This probably sounds like a silly question, but I have to ask.
I had been going through previous questions that had been answered and
read a few regarding Dobermans and male dogs. I have three other dogs, all
toy breeds, two of which are males. We had them before we brought home the
Dobe and introduced them properly. We now have a well balanced pack, and
the Dobe has actually proven himself to be the most submissive. He is only
4 months old - will this change even if my husband and I continue what we
are doing with our dogs in keeping them balanced? All three of the boys do
nearly everything together, and I have never had any issues. Although, in
reading about concerns with multiple males, I am now wondering if I should
be concerned myself since we have little dogs, too.
Thanks so much for the input.
A: from Mar Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Ashley,
Yes, you will and you should always be concerned. I am glad to hear that
you are the leader of the pack and have it all under control. As your
Doberman gets bigger and older he may try to challenge you or one of the
little ones for supremacy. You should never leave them unattended together
when you are gone. You will always have to be present when they are
together to remind them all who the boss is and you will not tolerate
aggressive behavior ever.
I did read your next email and you said the toy boys are neutered. Are you
going to neuter the Doberman boy at the proper time too?
To answer your question, you will always have to be concerned and you will
always have to be on top of things. When the Doberman boy is young, watch
the little "Toy Boys" for subtle aggressive behaviors toward him and each
other and correct them.
I hope that this helps and good luck.
Q: from Julie Frank
Date: 27-June-2008
Comments: Conformation
I am looking a an article or publication about how to "get your Dobe ready
for the show ring"...such as where to clip, & the "grooming" I need to do
before entering a show....I have a 9 month old female and I'm just not
sure "where to clip",....& how?
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Julie,
Daily brushing will help keep your Dobermans coat shinny, healthy and for
the removing the dead (shedding) hair coat.
We also have an article on the articles pages about How To Bathe A
Doberman by Anna Browning.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/bathing_dogs.htm. Anna mentions in this
article about using a particular shampoo but you can use your favorite
shampoo that is made for dogs.
Here too is an article or a recipe for a dry shampoo that you can spray
onto the dog and brush in to keep him/her clean in-between the bathing.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/dry_shampoo.html
I couldn't find an article about how to groom your Doberman for the dog
show so I am going to try to tell you the best that I can. You can use
scissors both thinning shears and/or regular scissor of good quality or
electric clippers. Clip the rust hairs that are inside the ears with the
growth of the hair. If you are using clippers, use a #30 or #40 blade
which is very close. You can use scissors too being careful not to cut the
skin. Hold them flat on the area that you want to trim and cut.
Clip off all of the whiskers that are on the muzzle, above the eyes, on
each side of the jaws and under the muzzle between the jaw bones. You can
with you finger pull the whiskers out away from the surface and snip each
one at the base being careful not to clip any of the rust hairs.
A Doberman should have a smooth outline so you will have to cut any hairs
that are sticking out.
All dogs have cowlicks (hair that grows in the opposite direction) that
grow down each side of the neck and on the back of the rear legs--trim
with thinning shears to be even with the regular hair.
Trim hairs that stick out (downwards) of the flank area to be even with
the edge being careful not to knick the loose skin. Trim whatever haircoat
that sticks out on the underline too.
Trim off or even out the tuft at the end of the tail.
Of course keep the toenails trimmed often. I do mine about every five
days.
There may be an article on how to do this or how to use the dremel to do
this too on our pages.
I hope that this helps you get started.
Q: from Susan Strobel
Date: 25-June-2008
Comments: Temperament
I am looking for some information. I have a 10 month old Doberman who has
been to four obedience classes since a small puppy. I'm trying to be sure
my dog is well-behaved around strangers and other dogs. He has been well
socialized with other dogs, and the people he does know well he is great
with. I am becoming concerned however as he has now lunged at two people
and actually tried to bite one. Do you have any suggestions as to what
could be causing this with him. My main goal with this dog was to be sure
he was friendly to people and I have worked so hard with him. The expense
is getting out of control with obedience classes and such. I work with him
daily and have worked with him non-stop since he was brought home. I am
really getting worried about this behavior and am hoping you can give me
some information or places to find information on reversing this behavior.
I'm truly hoping there is a positive outcome with this but the expense is
getting insane with obedience.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
A: from Mar Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Susan,
Can you tell us where that you live and maybe we can refer you to Doberman
specific professional trainer near you to help you with this problem.
Thank you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
I would like you to answer some questions before I give you some advice.
Have you been taking the dog to classes that you yourself do the training
along with a number of other people, or do you have the dog trained by
someone privately? The reason I ask is that usually Obedience classes are
not that expensive. Also, have you spoken with your trainer and given some
ideas what to do? It is very unusual for a dog that has been going to all
these Obedience classes with many other dogs and lots of people to
suddenly start being aggressive towards humans. Have you had the dog to
the Vet and told the Vet what is going on? There may be an underlying
cause that is related to health.
If you would please answer these questions, then I'll try to give you some
help with your problems.
Q: from Mary Gehrmann
Date: 23-June-2008
Comments: Temperament
I have a 6yr old male Doberman who is aggressive with other dogs and some
people. I need help with this problem. Can you referr me to anyone who can
help and is not intimidated by the breed? I live in northern NJ.
A: from Mar Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Mary,
There is a trainer in Spring Valley, New York that you can contact to help
you or for a referral. This will be John Soares and he owns Dobermans. For
additional information, please contact
JOHN SOARES
New York New Jersey Dog Training Center
Serving New York (Orange, Rockland Counties, Manhattan) and New Jersey
Phone: 973-715-0212
Email: vonbragacenter@aol.com
I hope that this can help you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Dear Mary,
Is your male neutered? If not, that would be a start.
Call your local Kennel Club or local Doberman club and I'm sure they
can refer you to a trainer who will, along with you get your dog trained
to accept people and other dogs. He needs to be in a good Obedience class
with you handling him.
In the mean time, I'd keep him away from any other dogs totally and if
people come to your home, put him in another room or crate in another room
until they are seated and then bring him in on a leash and have the
visitors hand him some treats. If he is barking in the crate, wait until
he settles down first. Don't bring him in until they are seated. After
giving him treats, let him loose and tell everyone to just ignore him. I'm
sure he will come up to them wanting to have more treats and be petted but
just tell visitors not to do this until he settles down and can be petted
when you feel he is not going to be aggressive.
When your guests are getting ready to leave, put the dog in another room
or crate until they leave so he doesn't get excited.
With other dogs, if you are taking him for a walk and you see another dog,
turn around and go the other direction or just standing still turn him
around and give him a treat and talk to him, ignoring the other dog until
it passes by. Soon hopefully he can at least be walked without being
aggressive. I would never take him to a dog park or any place off lead
with other dogs.
Q: from Christina
Date: 20-June-2008
Comments: Behavior
Hello,
I adopted a wonderful male Dobe from a shelter about a year ago. I suspect
he is between 2-3 yrs old now. He is very loving and gets along very well
with my other dog. He also came very well trained. The problem is I live
in a city. Even after a year, he still barks at every little noise and
every person/dog that he hears outside. My other dog knows what she needs
to bark at- I thought he would catch on. He does get exercise at a local
dog park where he runs like crazy. Is there anything I can do besides
always having a radio on so he (and me!) can relax?
A: from Mar Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Christina,
Have you thought about contacting a trainer near you to help you with this
training? I would recommend that you look into this idea of professional
help. There may be other options if all the possible training fails. I
understand just how frustrating that barking can be.
Q: from Amber Bloom
Date: 19-Junew-2008
Comments:
I have a 12 week old female puppy weighing in at 25 pounds i purchased her
unfortunately at a pet shop so they have no idea of parents size. Any way
to tell how big she will get? Thanks
A: from Mar Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Amber,
At first thought I am thinking that your 12 week old puppy weighing in at
25 pounds is a bit light. If you haven't already done this you may want to
take the puppy to be examined by a veterinarian for parasites and for a
general check up just to be sure that she is healthy.
There really is no way for sure that one would predict how much she will
weigh as an adult but a Doberman should have good sized (heavy) bone and
not appear refined. She is not too awfully light in weight and she can
catch up as she grows.
They all grow at different rates too.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
No, when you purchase a puppy from a pet shop, they are bred from puppy
mills and they don't do any health testing nor do they adhere to the
Doberman standard. Their reason for breeding is money. Now that I've
spouted off about pet shops, I'll try and answer your question.
No, there is no way to tell the ultimate size of the puppy. Hopefully she
will be approximately 25 1/2 inches which is ideal size. Take her to your
Vet for a good check up and make sure she is free of worms and get her
shots. Feed her a good quality food and when she's old enough take her to
Obedience classes and maybe Agility classes and have fun with her but when
you purchase your next Dobe, please buy from an established show breeder.
The price will be the same I'm sure and you will have someone you can call
on throughout the puppy's life time for any questions you may have. Good
luck with her.
Q: from Lisa Maloney
Date: 17-June-2008
Comments: gender
Can 2 Doberman males live together in the same household?
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
But with very rare exceptions, NO. Multiple males can live in a household
if the entire population of the house is aware that all must be kept
separate (AT ALL TIMES) and everyone is sure they won't make a mistake.
Many breeders have multiple males but they do not live together.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
We have answered this question many times. For the most part the answer is
NO. It is unlikely having 2 males will get along together. Unless someone
is willing to keep them separated and has successfully raised males in the
same home, I would never sell another male into a home that has a male,
neutered or not. Don't try it.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Lisa,
It is not recommended that two male Dobermans live in the same household.
Most reputable breeders will not sell a male Doberman into a home where
there is another male. It really isn't fair for the dogs overall. There
are many reasons for this.
Q: from Tanya Pratte
Date: 17-June-2008
Comments: Floppy Ear
My male Dobie is now 15 months old. His ears were cropped and posted. One
stands perfectly...but the other ear recently started to fall. I tried
re-taping but at this point it seems like the ear has "broken"...is there
any way to fix?
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Tanya,
You will have to continue to tape the ear to give it support to stand.
Please do it immediately. Hold the ear straight up and tape the ear just
below the break. Wrap it around towards the front (un-cut) side of the ear
and all the way around. Tape probably about 1 to 2 inches of the ear. The
ear should be standing straight up while in tapes. You may have to do both
ears and brace them if doing the one ear only does not work. Take the tape
off in about 5 days and if the ear flops again, re-tape it right away. You
can massage the ear at the break in the opposite direction of the break
before you tape too.
The important thing here is not to let it hang, keep the ear up at all
time until it stands.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
If the ears have been standing perfectly until this time, I wonder if
something else might be wrong with the dog. At this age, it's unusual for
the ears to stand and then recently drop. Make sure he has a visit to the
Vet to see if there might be an underlying problem. If nothing is found,
you can start taping. Just one strip around the ear at the break might
help. I would not put a post in as you want the dog to use the ear. I
don't know anything else to tell you.
Q: from Gina
Date: 15-June-2008
Comments: lazy ear
Thanks for Judy's suggestion. I do not know who cropped the ears, the
breeder had them done.
I will try what you suggest but am unsure how to "tape" without posts. Is
there an example somewhere or do I just apply tape to the ear leaving it
exactly as it is normally shaped?
Thanks.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Gina,
If you keep taping both your male and your females ears you will get them
up. Don't give up.
I see that you live in Sacramento. Have you thought of contacting the
Sacramento Doberman Pinscher Club to find a member near you to help you?
To find a contact, go to www.DPCA.com
and scroll to breeder referral and click onto California and you will find
a list of the Doberman Pinscher clubs in California and scroll to the
Sacramento Club and contact them. Hopefully they can refer you to a member
that can help you continue taping and get your Doberman's ears standing
tall all of the time.
If the ears are long, it can take longer. I understand the frustration but
keep trying and in the end you will be happy when the ears are standing
straight up at 12 o'clock.
If you like you can contact me personally at
Marj.Brooks@att.net and I can
help you find someone to help. I live in Santa Rosa and I do know of
knowledgeable Doberman fanciers in the Sacramento area. Email me with your
phone number.
Thank you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
When you tape without posts, you start the tape on the inside "button" of
the ear. Wrap tape around the hair side, not the cropped side of the ear.
Start at the lowest point in the ear. I use 2 inch tape, waterproof and
make just two wraps around. Do the same with the other ear and then do the
brace from one ear to the other as you would with posts. You will find
that the ears stay up just the same. If you use one inch tape then start
it the same place but take it up to where the break is so it holds the ear
up. Tape only for 4-5 days. Take down and leave until or unless the ear
drops again. When doing the brace, make sure both ears are straight up and
not leaning towards each other.
Q: from Elaine Rodriguez
Date 15-June-2008
Comments: skin disorder
We own a beautiful red Doberman. He is 16 months old, very well behaved (we
watch Dog Whisperer and have trained him well) and he is experiencing some
skin problem. Bumps (some are single and some are clustered together) all
over his body - they look initially like a ward and big enough that it
lifts his coat. They are all over the body except underneath, neck and
head. It seems that it itches because he gnaws on the ones within reach
causing it to get worse (they get kind of infected with a scab) and loose
his hair. Since he was a puppy we were feeding him Solid Gold large puppy
food (Wolf cub).
We were told that this could be possible too much protein. We have since
changed food. We have also been told that he may be experiencing hot
spots, also his Vet (after doing some diagnostic evaluation) when he was 5
months old told us that he acquired a virus from his mother, gave us a
special shampoo and pills and advised that it would clear up. We practice
natural medicine ourselves and were not happy with giving our pet medicine
with chemicals. We purchased the Neem Oil yesterday and started him today
(3 times daily) treatment.
Today we saw a new lesion close to his neck where he cannot reach and
nibble/scratch on it and it was bloody. Unlike the ones that look like a
ward. We inspected to see if there was any kind of bug sucking on the dog
and found nothing. We love our dog, he is absolutely beautiful.
Please we are open for any advice and guidance. Thank you in advance for
your attention to this and looking forward to your reply.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Elaine and Joey,
Even though you practice natural medicine you may need to put your
Doberman This can easily get way out of hand. There veterinarians that
practice homeopathic medicine. You can go here to find one near you
http://www.ahvma.org/. If so, you will need to give him a prescribed (by
your veterinarian) antibiotic. for a lot of days and maybe a month. Please
ask your vet about this. Maybe seeing a veterinarian that specializes in
skin would be a consideration for you too.
You should consider changing his food to the Solid gold Adult kibble if
you haven't done this yet.
After you do get it cleared up, you can you can added a few drops of
Grapefruit Seed Extract to his meals each day as it is a natural
antibiotic for maintenance or whatever the holistic veterinarian
prescribes as a preventative. I too like to practice natural medicine and
remedies but I am
open to conventional medicine in a serious situation as this can be. If he
has these bumps all over his body, it is serious and needs to be cured as
soon as possible.
I hope that this all helps you have his red coat be beautiful once again.
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
This is definitely a problem that needs to be addressed by a vet. If your
regular vet cannot diagnose and treat this condition please ask for a
referral to a skin specialist or at least a Veterinary Internist. We
cannot suggest treatment and this is much too serious to even try and
figure out on a list. Please take your dog to a "good" vet asap.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
As it says on this site, we do not discuss medical issues. However, since
you state you've taken him to a Vet I will say that I think your Vet is
referring to a Staph infection which may or may not be attributed to his
Dam. It could also be Demodex which is also a form of mange.
In any case, you need to get back to the Vet immediately as this sounds
pretty bad and may go to his blood stream if not treated again.
Another thing, you must make sure every speck of shampoo is rinsed out of
the dog and also between his toes. You can't rinse enough.
If this Vet doesn't seem to know what it is, I'd take him to another who
does. If treatment doesn't show a marked improvement within a short time,
take him back to a Vet right away. This isn't something you can put off as
it seems to be pretty bad right now.
Q: from Elise Roper
Date: 14-June-2008
Comments: Temperament
I have a 6 yr old neutered standard poodle and a 4 yr old standard poodle,
also neutered. I was told by a volunteer of Doberman rescue in my area,
that I could not adopt a 6 mo old Dobe pup because it is their policy not
to adopt to a household with another male dog. My dogs are submissive and
well socialized. Will that be a problem if i buy a Dobe pup, male?? thank
you for your time and consideration.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Elise,
As the others have told you, it is not recommended that a male Doberman is
place in a household where there are other males. In rare cases this can
be done but it is dependent on your being the pack leader and managing all
of the male dogs right from the beginning when you bring the new male
puppy into the pack. I would recommend that you not bring a male Doberman
into your home.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
With few exceptions, it is not good to bring in a male with another male
or two, neutered or not. Poodles may get along but it's unlikely that
bringing a male Doberman, neutered or not into the home. These dogs are
almost the same size at maturity with the Dobe possibly larger. Males try
for being dominant in the pack and even though your Poodles are laid back,
I certainly wouldn't do it. Why ask for trouble?
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
Doberman males do not, by nature, get along with other males of their own
kind or others. This is not an absolute and many can state exceptions and
situations where several males have lived together without a problem. It
happens, but is NOT the norm. Multiple bitches can fight also. Dobermans
are not by nature great "pack" animals and do better, in my opinion, in
groups of four or less, with only one male.
I do not sell males to pet homes with another male - just not safe for any
concerned. In a show situation and an experienced person who agrees to,
and is capable of, keeping the males separate, then I would make an
exception. You can bring the Doberman male home but he will need to be
apart from the Poodle males.
Q: from Gina
Date: 13-June-2008
Comments: "lazy" ear
I've followed your articles on taping for help but thought I'd ask for
myself now. My pups are 10 months old now. I have been taping since I got
them at 4 months old. The female's ear always drops to a droopy ear (left)
but the right stands. Now the right is curling over to the middle. She can
put both up but doesn't choose to unless she is outside playing with the
male.
The male's ears have been up for 3 months and now he is dropping his right
ear. Both pups will put their ears up when playing outside --but not while
walking them or in the house.
I have heard that some of the other pups in this litter have a "lazy" ear
and also a pup from the same female that is 4 years old.
I have tried visits with the only "ear" vet in the area (Sacramento) with
no results. She is hardly ever in and her techs are not concerned nor
interested since they did not do the crop.
Both pups have the long crop and I don't know if even entertaining the
thought of cutting them shorter will help.
The female's ears are thick all the way up.
Will I accomplish anything by continuing to post them and do I start
reposting the male's now also?
Sorry for the long email but I am totally frustrated now.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Tina,
If you can wash your puppy's chin after he/she eats will help. Since your
puppy already has this, you may need to see the veterinarian for some
medication to stop it. What I do is dab this with a diluted water, a drop
of dish soap and a couple drops of bleach to his clean chin each time
after he eats.
Since he is getting this on his thigh, a trip to the veterinarian may be
in order. You can clean that too with the solution. I am worried though
that he may be getting this staph infection all over his body and you want
to nip it in the bud now. Your vet will recommend a medication as well.
You can clean it with the solution while he is on the medication, but ask
the vet to be safe.
We really are not able to give veterinary advice to you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Did you have someone other than the Vet you spoke of crop the pups? I am
thinking of someone I know who crops and many of her ears have the same
problem. The only choice you have is to keep taping. Not all pups or grown
dogs keep their ears up in the house unless they hear something or are
outside playing. As long as they can hold them up for baiting or anything
else, I'd say its normal on some.
If they cannot hold them up for baiting, then you will have to continue to
tape. I would not use any posts in the ears on lazy ears. You have to get
them to use the ears so the muscles that run over the top of the head get
stronger. I'd just tape half way up and use a brace from one ear to the
other, making sure the brace is placed at the bottom of the ear so the
ears stand straight and not lean in over the head. Some have to tape until
18 mo. or so.
If you think the ears will never stand and you are planning to show the
pups, then re-cropping is an option but I'd hate to put a puppy through
it.
Q: from Abhishek
Date: 10-June-2008
Comments: Temperament
Hi, my 22 month old Dobe has developed a temperament problem which i m
unable to deal with. In the show ring he doesn't let the judge touch him
from behind or check his testicles. He starts growling n tries to turn
back. I noticed this problem the last time i showed him a month back. He
had EHRLICHIOSIS (tick fever) 4 months back n my Vet had collected lot of
blood samples from his hinds for monitoring the progress of treatment. I
think every time someone approaches him from behind he thinks that they are
going to hurt him and starts growling and jumping. he growls at people
approaching from behind when stacked even those whom he knows well. I'm
finding it very difficult to correct this behaviour. he has been shown 4
times n has already won the breed before he fell sick with tick fever n
showed no such aggression problem with humans though he was always tough
with other dogs. Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. THANKS!!
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello,
I just read the answer that Judy Doniere gave to you and it is the "right
on" answer for you in your situation. Pull him from the shows until you
have this problem corrected. The only thing that I can add is to not allow
him to act this way towards the other dogs either. Try to lessen his
aggression problems. You will need to find a trainer who is experienced in
all of this.
Maybe we/I can forward this question to someone for a recomendation. Can
you tell us/me where that you live?
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
This is a big problem. I would NOT show this boy until he is very stable
and allows anyone to go over him without making a sound or moving away
from the judge. He will be excused from the ring and if he moves towards
the judge while growling he will be Disqualified. If he is DQ'd he will
not be able to be shown again until and unless you apply for reinstatement
and a panel of 3 judges go over him without any problem at all.
I would take him to Obedience or Conformation training classes. When
anyone tries to go over him and he makes any move or growls, grab hold of
his muzzle and give him a FIRM NOOOOOO!!! Make him know you will not
tolerate this. He has to know that you are mad at him so he will not pay
any attention to who is trying to go over him and that he will pay more
attention to you being mad at him.
Many times exhibitors start saying "it's OK, no one's going to hurt you,"
etc. This only makes them think it's ok to do this and he's getting more
attention and love from you and he'll keep doing it. He has to know that
it's NOT ok.
Make sure you tell the trainer at your classes the problem your having so
they are aware and make sure you have a firm hold on him. A growling dog
is giving a warning. The next step is to bite. You cannot allow this to
every happen. EVER.
Yes, he might have a dislike for someone he thinks might give him another
shot but that should not be any excuse for his acting this way. He is
going through his adolescent stage and if allowed to continue, he will get
worse and you can't take the chance. Get him in classes immediately. To
delay is just going to make him worse.
DO NOT ENTER HIM IN ANY SHOW UNTIL HE IS TOTALLY STABLE.
Q: from Ashley Foster
Date: 9-June-2008
Comments: Ear Taping
How imperative is it that my vet tapes the ears himself? Everyone seems so
afraid to tape ears and freak out when I tell them that I want to do it
myself. My breeder did all of her own Dobie's ears, and she found the
articles on this website. My father also used to breed Dobie's so he is
very familiar with the methods used and the process. Will I ruin his ears
if I do it myself? I don't think paying the vet each time is necessary,
and I think that the process of me and my husband doing the taping is
important for our relationship with our dog. Am I being crazy here?
Thanks.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Hi Ashley,
Most of the time it's not the Vet that does the taping but a Tech which
may or may not know how to do a good job. If you follow the directions on
this web site, there is no reason you can't do the taping yourself. You've
got to learn sometime and now is the time. Make sure you do it correctly
and you'll do just fine.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Ashley,
No you are not being crazy. It sounds as though you have some very
experienced people in your Father and your breeder near you to help you.
You do not have to go to the vet. All of us tape our own ears too and help
others with the process. If you feel that you can do it, then I would day
go ahead. If you have further questions of us during the taping process,
don't hesitate to ask. I agree that the process of taping the ears
yourselves is important.
Good luck.
Q: from Rick Castro
Date: 8-June-2008
Comments: Handling
I have an 8 month male that I am currently showing, Owner handled. My
puppy is starting to jump up on everyone including the judge. He also
isn't wanting to stand for the examine by the judge. I have not started
any formal Obedience training. Should I start?
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Rick,
Are there any conformation classes in your area? You can contact your
local obedience club or a kennel club and ask about these types of
classes. At the classes the trainer can help you put a stop to this
problem. Maybe at your next show you can approach a Doberman handler to
help you with this too. Your breeder also may be able to help.
Also, teaching your dog to "stand stay" will help. I suggest enrolling an
obedience class to "teach you how to teach your dog" would be beneficial
to you in the long run. OR: You can find someone to privately mentor you
for this.
These are a few suggestions to think about doing.
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
I teach all of my puppies basic obedience but WITHOUT the sit. They are
taught to heal, stand, stand stay, come as well as watch , step and back.
I will discourage them from jumping on other people but do allow them to
jump up on me playfully as I want them to love to show and be excited. A
handlers job is to channel the energy and excitement and turn it into
"attitude" for the show ring. Hopefully you are working with an instructor
who can explain more of what I mean. One does not want to take the "happy"
out of the show puppy - very, very important. Teaching the obedience will
show the pup he must obey you and listen to commands. It is not a 'quick'
process and takes lots of time and patience.
Q: from Tina
Date: 8-June-2008
Comments: puppy acne
My puppy has bumps under his chin that look pimples. I heard that's common
in Dobes and is called puppy acne. Is that true? He also has some, not as
bad on his thigh that he sometimes licks when he goes to bed for the
night.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans USA
Hello Tina,
If you can wash your puppy's chin after he/she eats will help. Since your
puppy already has this, you may need to see the veterinarian for some
medication to stop it. What I do is dab this with a diluted water, a drop
of dish soap and a couple drops of bleach to his clean chin each time
after he eats.
Since he is getting this on his thigh, a trip to the veterinarian may be
in order. You can clean that too with the solution. I am worried though
that he may be getting this staph infection all over his body and you want
to nip it in the bud now.
Your vet will recommend a medication as well. You can clean it with the
solution while he is on the medication, but ask the vet to be safe.
We really are not able to give veterinary advice to you so if you haven't
seen the veterinarian already then I suggest that you do..
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
We are not Vets but I would have your test your pup for possible Staph
infection which is common in young pups. Also, make sure you wash off and
dry his chin thoroughly after he eats.
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
The condition is not just common in Dobermans but in all young dogs. From
what I have been told the bumps around the chin and face are most commonly
from exposure to fowl droppings or rodent droppings on the ground on which
they run on. If there are lots of birds, chickens etc. where you walk or
run the puppy then this might explain why you are having the problem.
There is also a low grade staph infection that can cause the condition,
especially as you mention it is on more than just the face. I would
strongly suggest having your vet take a look as we cannot prescribe any
medication or medical treatment on this list. Good luck.
Q: from: Tina
Date 7-June-2008
Comments: chewing bedsheets
I was wondering if anyone else has this problem and how to fix it. My male
Dobe just turned 11 months old. He chews on our couch and while we are
sleeping he chews on our sheets, blanket or dog bed. This is our 4th dog
and we never had any of these problems. He loves to chew soft stuff. When
we wake up to his chewing we correct him. Any ideas on how to stop it when
correcting won't help?
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Tina,
I would suggest at night or when you have to leave your young dog
unattended that you have him sleep in a crate. When you do catch your
puppy chewing correct him with a command, "no chew" and take the object
away simultainiously and give him something that he can chew on such as a
rawhide or a bone or ????. Praise him when he is chewing the desired
chewable object.
He may need more exercise, obedience training will help him from becoming
bored.
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
Young dogs, especially young males, tend to chew anything they can find.
Socks, bedding and anything soft is usually what they will chew and
swallow. The real danger here is swallowing what they chew and ending up
with a bowel obstruction with surgery and even death. The dog should be
sleeping in a crate/kennel overnight, and also in a kennel when you cannot
watch the pup. More exercise, more attention and obedience training are
all ways to re-channel this energy and direct his activities. It sounds
like he is bored but do start by confining him overnight.
Q: from Gail O'Neill
Date: 5-June-2008
Comments: Choosing A Breeder
We are going to purchase a Doberman. Do you know anything about the
breeder "LeGard Doberman" in Alabama. Thank you.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Gail,
It is not our place to comment or give opinions about breeders but her is
some information to help you decide. I am breeder referral for the area
that I live in and I send this out to many of the inquiries. These are
some guidelines to help you make this important decision. Try to go and
see the puppies and don't pay for your puppy with PayPal and please
interview the breeder. Here is my information that I send out. I hope that
the advice below helps you in your decision.
In the meantime please go to the DPCA
website and also the DPCA
breeders website and also the
DPCA Public Education website
for a wealth of knowledge about the Doberman Pinscher.
The parents and ancestors should be health tested for all of the inherent
health problems that plague the Doberman so that breeding decisions can be
made on health. These tests should include a DNA test for vWD, a full
thyroid panel, x-rays for the hips and elbows, A Holter monitor test and a
echocardiogram for the heart and the C.E.R.F eye test. You should or must
ask the breeder about these tests. Ask if the parents (sire and the dam)
of the puppies are tested. You can read about these diseases on the
breeders education website
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/article_menu.htm in the articles section
under health. You can also read about these diseases on our Public
Education pages here:
http://www.dpca.org/PublicEd/PEC/PECGenetic.html.
There is also a temperament test that breeding animals should take so that
breeding decisions can be made on the temperament of the breeding pair.
For more information on this, here is an article:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/breeders_tools.htm.
It is not about a pass or fail, it is about learning about your dog and
breeding for the correct and the ideal Doberman temperament. As well as
the article above about the testing there are many articles about
temperament on the breeders website
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/article_menu.htm You can learn more
about the WAE temperament test itself here. All breeders should test their
breeding pairs to learn about their dog and breed for the ideal.
All of the breeders listed here will have the ears cropped and healed
before they let the puppies go to their homes. If you have any questions
about Dobermans and/or breeders do not hesitate to ask me. You can also
reach me at 717-539-2050.
For even more information about the Doberman Pinscher and more articles go
to www.DPCA.org and click onto the
various links throughout the website.
Here is a good article about finding a breeder.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/tips_on_buying.htm.
Also just scan the whole website for a wealth of information. Here are the
breeders in the area that have or will have Doberman Pinscher puppies. It
is best to call them and interview them as they should interview you.
Also, I caution a person to be careful about buying over the internet and
from websites. Give them a call first and interview them and then if they
have a website, take a look to see pictures of their dogs or what have
you. Please consider not to purchase your puppy over the internet. If you
cannot get these people on the phone, please leave a message and a call
back number slowly and clearly. Give them time to return your call. If it
is a few days, then please try again. Often they are just busy with the
puppies.
Again, please keep in touch with me for updates.
Also if you have any questions feel free to call me at 717-539-2050
or email me.
Please let me know when you find you "new buddy".
Thank you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
I am not familiar with that kennel name. We do not give opinions on
selling puppies.
Q: from Kim
Date: 4-June-2008
Conformation
Comments: I have an 11 month old male Dobie that I intend to show in
conformation & agility. He has been entered in a few matches for
experience but has not been entered in any shows yet because he tends to
pace. I can usually pull him back and get him to eventually gait properly
but in the competitive Doberman conformation ring getting points on a dog
with a preference for pacing will be difficult at best. He seems to
actually prefer pacing and will even pace when he is playing in our large
backyard. He looks to be structurally sound and has been complimented by
judges at matches. I have taken him to a vet to confirm that he doesn't
have any injuries that may be causing him pain when he gaits. X-rays were
taken and he was diagnosed with panosteitis. He seems to pace even when he
doesn't seem to be suffering from a bout of pano. Is this a common problem
in Dobies? Can he be retrained to gait properly or is this something I
will have to wait for him to outgrow? Could it be e
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Kim,
Pacing is considered a lazy gait. He could be doing it though to
compensate for the pain of the pano and the lack of exercise that is
required while he is hurting from the pano. You can train him out of this.
Take him for walks and while you are on these walks, don't allow him to
pace.
To stop it, you can shift his weight on lead by pulling his whole body
tilting him to one side or the other and towards you would be the easiest
while you are walking. The idea is to have him be slightly out of balance
and he will correct up to get back into balance. That is one way and walk
briskly. Go for these walks when he is not feeling the effect of the pano
and in-between the pano episodes. The more exercise that he gets gaiting
correctly will get him out of this lazy bad habit.
I take it that when he is hurting with his pano you are keeping him quiet
and not allowing exercise and that you are treating him for the
inflammation.
When you are showing him in the ring and you will have to practice this at
home to get it down and so you can do it smoothly as if you are not doing
it at all. With your hand that is closest to him put your fingers
in-between the jaw bones at the bottom of his muzzle (wish that I can show
you this) and as you are moving forward lift him up and forward while you
and he are moving forward. When you two get going gently let him down and
go.
I believe that in this case your dog is pacing because of the pano.
Because of the pano, you have to put his exercise on hold until he
outgrows the pano
which he will.
When he is older and his growth plates are all filled in he can be road
worked but that will have to wait until he is 18 months old.
Does this help any?
Thank you.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Kim,
Pacing is an easy, lazy gait. Some dogs get in the habit of doing it and
it's hard to break. Usually it starts when owners take their dogs for a
walk and most will pace then because the owner is walking and the dog is
not going at a gait that is a trot.
Here is one method that will work. Practice this at home in the yard
before you do it in the ring so you can do it with ease.
When you start out gaiting, take your RIGHT hand and as YOU START OFF lift
him ( under the chin at the throat) off the ground about 2 inches. This is
just to throw off his pacing. You do this for just 2 steps and then
release and continue on. He should be trotting normally. Do not stop and
do this, you must start off walking and he is walking with you but you
have his front legs off the ground just a bit and then drop your hand and
keep going.
As I said, you must practice this over and over in your yard before you do
it in the ring so it will be a very smooth movement. Have someone watch
you as you're starting off.
I had a 4 1/2 yr. old male who was never shown and the former owner told
me he would never trot, only pace. In just one movement like I told you,
he dropped into a smooth trot and he finished easily, never once pacing in
the ring.
Good luck. Let us know how you do.
Q: from Donna Brooks
Date 3-June-2008
Comments: Choosing A Breeder
My question is: My female Dobie is on the "Z" list and I have a new stud I
would like to breed her with. The new stud is not on the "Z" list and the
owner is afraid we will produce undesirable pups. I have bred my "Z"
females for many years and I'm proud to say I have always produced
wonderful, healthy pups. Can you shed some light on this issue?
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
Donna - the purpose of the "Z" list is to identify those carrying the gene
and avoid them in one's breeding program. That is the stand of the D.P.C.A.,
and since we are all members of the D.P.C.A., and have signed the Code of
Ethics, we have to advise against breeding any dog on the "Z" list.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
Donna,
I would hope you would breed healthy puppies, however the point in
breeding any dogs are to breed as close to the DPCA Standard as you can.
Since dogs on the Z list are those who have Albinos in their pedigree and
those are a Disqualification in the standard, why would you want to breed
a female that will continue to carry this trait in her puppies? Besides
the Z (Albinism trait)have you health tested your female and is the male
also health tested?
I'm not referring to their present state but those tests that are
suggested by all ethical breeders before they breed. Hips & Elbows x-ray
and sent to OFA? vWD by DNA, a test for von Willebrands for bleeding
disorders? Recent Echo & Holter tests for Cardiomyopathy? Thyroid test
sent to Michigan State University for results?
How much does your bitch and the proposed stud conform to the Breed
Standard?
These are all things that should be considered beyond the Z which I would
never ever breed a dog or bitch carrying this factor anyway.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Donna,
With all due respect we all really should consider not breeding "Z"
factored Dobermans at all. The DPCA years ago did quite an extensive study
on these dogs and had some findings that were detrimental to our breed
overall. In fact Judy Doniere was very much involved with this study. I am
sure that she will respond to this question.
Anyway as a result of this study, it is recommended that the "Z" factored
Dobermans not be bred and used in our overall, have chosen not to breed
these "Z" factored Dobermans or add them to my/our Doberman Pinscher
breeding program. I feel that this is my responsibility as a Doberman
fancier and breeder as we as breeders are to protect and preserve this
breed when making the decision to breed Doberman Pinschers. The owner of
the male is correct in having these concerns.
I understand too, like me and others, that you love your Doberman girl and
you would like to have more like her. I am going to direct you to an
article on our pages and hopefully after you do read it, that you can
reconsider this important decision. The article:
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/albinohistory.htm
Also take a look at this article just for some more information about
breeders.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/tips_on_buying.htm
Please scan our articles page for more articles to help you in your making
this responsible decision.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/article_menu.htm
I feel that breeding Doberman Pinschers is huge responsibility for all of
us who cares and loves the breed.. There is so much to think about in
doing this and it is expensive as you may well know. In our breed we have
some devastating health issues that we need to do a lot of expensive
testing of the breeding pair for to determine breeding decisions about
health. There are several articles on our pages about our health issues.
The big one for us is Cardiomyopathy and we have two tests that we must do
yearly to all of our dogs let alone our breeding stock. We test for Von
Willebrands disease, the thyroid health, x-ray the hips and the elbows and
do an eye test (C.E.R.F.) so we can make informed breeding decisions about
the health as I mentioned above. Look for article about these hereditary
health issues on
our pages.
We, the DPCA, also have a temperament test to help learn about our dogs so
that we make a breeding decision that help us have the proper Doberman
Pinscher temperament as the founders of our breed envisioned. We learn
about the conformation as well, so that we can breed a Doberman that can
be the active, athletic working dog that he is supposed be and he is
strong and will stand the test of time. Like I say breeding the Doberman
Pinscher is a huge responsibility. Please consider the above advice and
information in your decision to.
Again, there are many articles on our pages about all of these things that
I have mentioned here and more.
If you have more questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
Thank you Donna for asking and considering this important issue.
Q: from Tara
Date: 3-June-2008
Comments: ear cropping
I am sorry- I saw the question on the forum already, but it doesn't look
like the answer was posted in its entirety. I have found a vet to crop my
Dobie's ears, but how do I know if he is a responsible, or proven vet to
do the procedure? Is there a list that your organization puts out of vets
by state to do this? Thank you!
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
No, there is no list for you to chose from. Where do you live? If we might
know of a Vet in your area who we've heard of, we can let you know. You
should ask the Vet if he's done many Dobe ear crops.
BTW, didn't your breeder recommend any Vet to you?
Is this puppy going to be shown in the breed ring? If so, you should ask
the Vet if he/she does show crops, that may help. If not, then you should
just get a nice crop anyway but possibly shorter. Most of the top breeders
have the puppies cropped before they sell them.
Q: from Renee
Date: 3-June-2008
Comments: Pregnant
Liebchen is due in on July 24, 2008 what kind of diet should I use so she
does well and so do the unborn puppies. Liebchen is also 2 years old and
this is her first liter. I did raise a liter last year from Ava another
doberman and I did have some problems. Please help me.
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
I do not change the diet of my pregnant bitches...they are fed their
regular food and amounts until the last two weeks of pregnancy. At that
time I increase the amount I am feeding by 1/2 cup each feeding until the
puppies are born. The only exception to this is if the bitch is looking
thin with a large litter, then I will increase it more. Lots of exercise,
keep her clean and her coat in good condition - brush and massage at least
twice weekly.
A: from Judy Doniere, Toledobes, USA
As long as the food is a high quality food and you are giving the proper
amount and later on add some multi vitamins and she is raised indoors she
should do OK. Go into the many articles on this web site on breeding and
you will find a lot of good material. You didn't mention the problems you
had.
First make sure the bitch is current on her shots and has no worms and has
ALL her health testing and the stud dog as well. She should have an OFA on
her hips, vWD by DNA, Thyroid test done by Michigan State University (Vet
will send it to them) an Echo and Holter test for her heart and all the
tests shortly before she is bred. The Vet will tell you what she needs.
These are a MUST for both the sire and dam.
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Renee,
We have an article on our pages that is from a breeders seminar. Starting
on page 14 through page 17 there is an article about feeding the pregnant
bitch.
http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/PDF/Euk_Repro.pdf
There are other articles within this seminar that would be beneficial to
you too. I recommend that you print this seminar for your continued study.
Also please scan our articles page for many more articles that will help
you have success with the feeding of the dam, the feeding and the raising
and
the training of the puppies as well. There is a wealth of information on
our pages to insure that you raise a healthy, in both mind and body,
litter of puppies.
I am expecting a litter myself and I have prepared my girl with all of the
health testing to help me make breeding decisions based on the health. The
male that I chose to bred my girl to was also tested for all of the
diseases that plague the Doberman. Having the results of these tests for
both parents helped me a lot to make breeding decisions based for health.
Both of the parents also went through the DPCA Working Aptitude Evaluation
(temperament test) to help me make breeding decisions for proper Doberman
temperament. Our WebPages are packed with articles that can help us breed
the very best in health, temperament and conformation, the total Doberman
Pinscher.
Please feel free to scan the articles, read them and even print them to
establish a library of useful and helpful information.
I hope that we have helped and if you should have any more questions as
things progress and after you have read some of the articles, please ask
us.
Thank you.
Q: from Annmaire
Date 2-June-2008
Comments: ear cropping
How do I find a responsible vet, I am interested in possibly having this
done. My pup is now 9 weeks old
A: from Marj Brooks, Manorie Dobermans, USA
Hello Annmarie,
This is a bit hard to tell you because we have no idea where you are. Here
is a suggestion. Go to the www.DPCA.com
website and do one of two things or both. Go to the Chapter Clubs link and
click onto that and find a Doberman Pinscher club near you or in your
state, whatever the closest. You can contact them and they may be able to
tell you of a veterinarian that crops Doberman Pinscher ears in your area.
You can also click onto the Breeder Referral link and enter and click on
to your state and find a breeder listed in your state and the closest to
you and contact them for a recommendation.
This should hopefully help you find a responsible veterinarian that will
crop your puppy's ears. Please do this right away.
Thank you.
A: from Holly Schorr, Pennylane Dobermans, USA
There is no published list of vets who do ear cropping. You can check the
DPCA membership list for breeders in your area and call them and ask who
they use. Also question the vet you have found about how many ears he does
in a year. Ear cropping is an art and a bad crop can ruin a dog's "look",
not to mention be harmful to the dog if the vet does not know what he/she
is doing. You didn't state where you are so it is hard to try and
recommend someone.
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